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AtmaWeapon
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:24 am Post subject: Why are there so few high school teaching positions? |
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| I've already taught elementary school and middle school and seeing as how I'd eventually like to teach high school in the US I'd like to get a position teaching high school, but all I seem to be finding are elementary and middle positions. Why is this? |
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Korean Kids stop learning English when they get to high school. From then on they just study how to select the most correct sentence from three other not quite as correct ones. |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think you will get "high school" experience overseas that you can use back home. It would be better to temp or sub back home to get experience. |
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climber159
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Indeed. In all likelyhood your experience as an unlicensed ESL teacher in Korea will not count toward your years of experience teaching in the US (you may get lucky though). You'd be better off heading back now, working as a TA, paraprofessional, or substitute while earning a Master's plus teaching license. Many school districts count each year working as a TA, paraprofessional, or substitute as a half year on the teacher salary scale. Hopefully you are planning on going into a high demand area such as maths or science...some areas are getting flooded with new teachers because of the less-than-stellar economy.
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Swampfox10mm
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Climber is giving advice on the US job market, but said, �maths.�
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jrwhite82
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Climber is giving advice on the US job market, but said, �maths.�
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Technically, math or maths can be correct. In the US, math is the commonly accepted term and only people who learned British English would use maths (said math, meant to say maths here). In the UK, maths is more commonly used to describe the general field of mathematics. It includes more than one type of "math" or in the plural form - maths. (algebra, trig, geometry, calc....) So if Climber is an American (which seems like the case because he/she is giving advice about America) it is strange that he is using maths.
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fustiancorduroy
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Climber is giving advice on the US job market, but said, �maths.�
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Technically, math or maths can be correct. In the US, math is the commonly accepted term and only people who learned British English would use math. In the UK, maths is more commonly used to describe the general field of mathematics. It includes more than one type of "math" or in the plural form - maths. (algebra, trig, geometry, calc....) So if Climber is an American (which seems like the case because he/she is giving advice about America) it is strange that he is using maths. |
Yes, that's the point: Climber is probably British, yet he is giving advice about the US job market, which is probably not his area of expertise. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah I get that, but looking at his other posts, he didn't say anything that led me to believe he is British. (called an apartment an apartment not flat) Just a typo? Or maybe he really is from the UK. Either way, you don't have to be from the US to know what he said. |
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climber159
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Climber is giving advice on the US job market, but said, �maths.�
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Technically, math or maths can be correct. In the US, math is the commonly accepted term and only people who learned British English would use math. In the UK, maths is more commonly used to describe the general field of mathematics. It includes more than one type of "math" or in the plural form - maths. (algebra, trig, geometry, calc....) So if Climber is an American (which seems like the case because he/she is giving advice about America) it is strange that he is using maths. |
Yes, that's the point: Climber is probably British, yet he is giving advice about the US job market, which is probably not his area of expertise. |
I am not British. I am American and have taught in the US public schools system. I currently teach in an international school in South Asia (where British English nuances are many). My use of the "maths" rather than "math" is one of preference. If we consider the word that math or maths is a shortened form of, then "maths" makes more logical sense. One typically encounters the term "mathematics" rather than "mathematic." Because of this, my preference is to keep the "s" in the shortened word. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| climber159 wrote: |
| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Climber is giving advice on the US job market, but said, �maths.�
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Technically, math or maths can be correct. In the US, math is the commonly accepted term and only people who learned British English would use math. In the UK, maths is more commonly used to describe the general field of mathematics. It includes more than one type of "math" or in the plural form - maths. (algebra, trig, geometry, calc....) So if Climber is an American (which seems like the case because he/she is giving advice about America) it is strange that he is using maths. |
Yes, that's the point: Climber is probably British, yet he is giving advice about the US job market, which is probably not his area of expertise. |
I am not British. I am American and have taught in the US public schools system. I currently teach in an international school in South Asia (where British English nuances are many). My use of the "maths" rather than "math" is one of preference. If we consider the word that math or maths is a shortened form of, then "maths" makes more logical sense. One typically encounters the term "mathematics" rather than "mathematic." Because of this, my preference is to keep the "s" in the shortened word. |
Acceptable but unorthodox. I like it.  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Why are there so few high school teaching positions? |
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| I've already taught elementary school and middle school and seeing as how I'd eventually like to teach high school in the US I'd like to get a position teaching high school, but all I seem to be finding are elementary and middle positions. Why is this? |
Strictly a numbers game.
3-4 elementary schools feed into 1 middle school.
10 middle schools feed into 3 high schools.
30-40 elementary positions for 10 middle school positions for 3 high school positions.
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soyoungmikey
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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That's only in Seoul. There are many high schools elsewhere. |
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Hank the Iconoclast
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Location: Busan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Students mainly focus on the college entrance exam which has no speaking component. Unless, you are teaching at a Foreign Language High School, there's zero need for a foreign teacher teaching conversation. |
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