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v88



Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Winter heating stupidity Reply with quote

Honestly this country isn't that cold, they have the technology...yet in the morning I'm sitting in the office with a t-shirt sweating my a(# off because the heat is cranked yet by 3 I have to wear a jacket hat and gloves hovered over the frosted carcass of my 1984 era office computer because the heat has been shut off never to be turned on again. The doors are all left wide open while Koreans everywhere continuously complain about the cold weather and my building has about as much insulation as a box made of concrete with gaping holes in it...wait, my building is a concrete box with holes in it...never mind my last complaint. That's not their fault, western architecture is to blame...

I wish there was one person who was responsible so that I could smack him and the 'Benz' he rode in on.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe there should be a sticky with just complaints about school climate control. Or two stickies: one for winter and one for summer.
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Winter heating stupidity Reply with quote

v88 wrote:

I wish there was one person who was responsible so that I could smack him and the 'Benz' he rode in on.



I too wish that one person were responsible for their strange (to us) behavior. Unfortunately their mindset is a product of thousands of years of history and culture and beliefs and myths and so on... There's no changing it, and even if you ask a Korean why they do it this way, they won't be able to tell you because they've never objectively question their heating methods themselves.

The best thing to do is do for yourself. Don't ask permission. If you're cold, turn on the heater. If you're hot, turn it down. If the door or window is open and an arctic breeze is blasting your asses, close them.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The overpowering heat on the inter-city buses gets me. I love getting off into cold conditions, dripping in back sweat.

I did get lucky and got a bus the other day where the guy had the heat blasting AND the vents open. Warm, but with air-circulation. And no dried-squid old people funk.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
The overpowering heat on the inter-city buses gets me. I love getting off into cold conditions, dripping in back sweat.

I did get lucky and got a bus the other day where the guy had the heat blasting AND the vents open. Warm, but with air-circulation. And no dried-squid old people funk.


No kidding. The temperature on most red buses in the Winter is ridiculous. No wonder everyone falls asleep! Really, not exaggerating, it was my main motivation for buying a car two years ago. I just couldn't face the commute every day on those oven buses.

Then I would arrive at work and the windows in the teachers office would be open!!
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KNet229



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the thing that still consistently baffles me is Korea's insistence on keeping windows open for ventilation. in my building the stairway windows are constantly opened making taking the stairs awful. at one point ice formed on one of the landings Sad

also in my building, i'm constantly closing the doors to the building so it retains heat, keeps things warmer and more comfortable, saves money, and doesn't waste energy. however, every single day someone opens them up and leaves them wide open, sometimes opening the windows as well.

aigo
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
not exaggerating, it was my main motivation for buying a car two years ago. I just couldn't face the commute every day on those oven buses.


Yup, same here. I bought a car in my first 6 months here. Way too hot in the winter on trains and buses, and no better in the summer. It just killed me every time bus drivers turned the A/C off in order to make it uphill instead of downshifting.


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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took my wife to the embassy the other day and almost passed out. The bus was so ridiculously hot, luckily I was near a big departure and got a seat fast. Didn't help conditions on the window- there was frost on the inside

Then later in the day the wife and I took the subway home. There was no way to sleep because the seats were on fire. I thought it would burn a hole through my thermals it was so bad.

I can't understand it.
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darkjedidave



Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Shanghai/Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my office, the thermostat is often set to 28 C. Thank god I have a wall A/C unit above my desk, I run that thing constantly with confused looks from the Koreans. It's either that, or I'm gonna work naked.

Whats worse to me is fall/spring when the temps first dip into the frigid 60s, the heat in buses, subways and stores are cranked full blast.
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roguefishfood



Joined: 21 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't arrived yet but this all sounds positively wonderful to me, as someone who heats every space in the winter as much as I can afford! Cool
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Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add a little tid-bit:
You know how very often the Korean way to wash a bathroom floor is to basically just toss a bucket full of soapy water on it, right?
And of course the windows are wide open in the winter when they do this.
Last year at the adult institute where I taught, one of my female students slipped on the completely iced over, frozen floor in the bathroom and broke her right wrist. She is right handed.
She came into class the next day with a cast on, and said she fell because she was "clumsy."
And of course, the windows remained open and the floors remained icy.
JHC!


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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feloria wrote:
You know how the Korean way to wash a floor is to basically just toss a bucket full of soapy water on it, right?


Actually, that's definitely not the typical way of washing the floors here.
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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kid you not, I've known Korean to turn start yelling "chua" and wear sweaters and a scarf and turn on little personal heaters in September! If they were cold then, then this weather but be freezing.

My school has gotten pretty good about using the heat. It's been on for a few hours by the time I get there and they keep it on as long as we have students. If a student complains of being hot, we tell them to take their jacket off. Just having to say that sometimes baffles me. Obviously, if you're hot, take your jacket off. Are you stupid? You'd rather turn the heat off or open a window and keep your coat on? However, a few days a week we have some down time where there are no students for an hour or so, then the heat goes off. But the residual heat is to keep it comfortable till kids come back.

But in summer, they refuse to turn the a/c on at all. I could be in a t-shirt, shorts, and flip flops and still be dripping sweat. I don't get it. They must be super sensitive to cold or something.
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Lazio



Joined: 15 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
Then later in the day the wife and I took the subway home. There was no way to sleep because the seats were on fire. I thought it would burn a hole through my thermals it was so bad.


That's right. Beside the red buses, those subways with the metal benches are burning hell too. I swear if I were to put a raw egg on the seat, it could be cooked. The other day I had to give up my seat on the subway because my "eggs" were about to be cooked as well.
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Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7--
I guess I should clarify--this is for bathrooms, primarily.
In every school I've worked at here, granted it's been only 4--in Busan, and Suncheon.
Every morning and afternoon the cleaning people would toss water onto the bathroom floors.
There would be a half inch to an inch of water on the floor until it eventually went down the drain.
My fellow teachers and I would have to roll our pants up in order to keep them from being ruined.
In the winter, the water tends to freeze from the windows always being left open.
I've also encountered this quite a bit in public restrooms; a lot of standing water.
You're right, I shouldn't generalize--but I have encountered this quite a bit.
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