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Stout



Joined: 28 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: You make the call Reply with quote

http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/korea/soldier-asks-for-reduction-of-10-year-sentence-for-rape-of-korean-girl-1.165186


The U.S. soldier whose rape case was largely responsible for the reinstatement of a curfew for all American servicemembers in South Korea appeared before an appeals court Thursday asking that his 10-year prison sentence be reduced.

While taking full responsibility and apologizing for his actions in the Sept. 24 rape of a 17-year-old Korean girl, Pvt. Kevin Lee Flippin told a three-judge Seoul High Court panel, �I think 10 years is a little too much.

�I know that I did a very bad thing,� he said during his brief statement. �This is the only time I did anything wrong to another human being.�

Flippin�s attorney, Noh Sucheol, said that while, �It goes without saying that the damage to the victim can�t be compensated by money,� she has been paid $20,000 in �compensation,� and an unspecified amount more will be given to her in the future.

In addition, he said Flippin �acted out of impulse� while drunk, and he �could not control [his] urge to hurt such a young girl.�

In South Korean courts, compensation paid to victims and a defendant�s degree of intoxication are factors often considered in sentencings and appeals.

Noh added that Flippin �enlisted in the service with big dreams,� and he served �diligently� prior to the attack.

The panel did not issue a decision on Flippin�s request, saying it would rule on Jan. 19.

AdvertisementFlippin, 21, was a member of the 2nd Infantry Division�s 6th Battalion, 37th Field Artillery Regiment, stationed at Camp Casey in Dongducheon at the time of the assault.

During his trial, he admitted raping and robbing the girl in a dormitory-style apartment building near the base. A closed-circuit video introduced as evidence in the case showed Flippin trying to open several doors before entering the victim�s unlocked room.

Once inside, according to court testimony, he repeatedly raped and sodomized the victim over the course of four hours.

During that time, he also punched and slapped the victim in the face, stole a small amount of money from her wallet, dragged her across the room, threatened her with a knife and pair of scissors, and burned her breast with a lighter, among other things, according to court records and testimony.

After sobering up, Flippin begged for forgiveness before leaving the victim�s room, according to testimony.

In the wake of Flippin�s arrest, and a few other high-profile criminal cases involving U.S. soldiers, there were anti-American protests, with protesters and Korean media outlets calling for revisions to the U.S.-South Korea status of forces agreement to allow local authorities greater access to and control over American servicemembers charged with crimes.

In addition, U.S. military and government officials in Korea issued public apologies for the Flippin attack, and U.S. Forces Korea commander Gen. James Thurman reinstituted a curfew for all American servicemembers on the peninsula.

This week, USFK announced that the curfew will continue indefinitely and, starting Saturday, the hours will be revised to 1 to 5 a.m. every day.

Flippin�s sentence was the most severe handed down for a U.S. servicemember in South Korea in nearly 20 years, prompting some to suggest the defendant was unfairly punished because of the attention his case received here and the fact that he is an American soldier.

Just 12 days before Flippin was sentenced, the same three-judge Uijeongbu District Court panel sentenced a Korean man to 3 1/2 years in prison for the rape of an 18-year-old U.S. soldier based at Camp Casey.

In that case, the 25-year-old defendant was found guilty of following the soldier as she left a nightclub on her way to a restroom and raping her in a stairwell.

At the time, Lee Sangyup, a Uijeongbu District Court judge and information officer, said the differences in the two sentences were a reflection of the details of the crimes.

�In [Flippin�s] case, his crime was done for about four hours, but the Korean man did it less than one hour,� Lee said. �Also, [Flippin] raped the victim several times. The Korean man raped the victim once for a moment. [Flippin] used a pen, a lighter, a knife and a pair of scissors. The Korean man used nothing.�

After a hearing last month, a different Seoul High Court panel reduced the Korean defendant�s sentence in the nightclub attack to three years, court records show.

Among the reasons cited in the judges� decision to reduce the sentence was that the defendant did not have a prior criminal record and he expressed remorse for his crime.
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flippin was absolutely repulsive and disgraceful. I say 10 w/o parole. Easy call.
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sbp59



Joined: 01 Apr 2009
Location: Somewhere in SK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 years seems pretty light based on those details. He raped her for 4 hours. Hopefully he gets 4 hours a night from some huge homosexual prisoners.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find cases like this to be incredibly difficult to judge. What's the difference between 5, 10, and 20 years anyway? Will the guy really be rehabilitated after these amounts of time?

Might be better to reduce it to five years and have him under house arrest for the remaining five, along with mandatory counseling.

But I wouldn't feel at all bad about him receiving ten years.

EDIT: I wanted to add that he would receive no punishment and might do it again if the girl wasn't brave enough to report it.

If this happens to you or anyone you know report it immediately! The chances of the person getting caught are very high, especially with DNA evidence. And if they don't get caught there's a good chance that they will do it again.

The police are very sensitive about this sort of thing and extremely serious about helping you or whoever the victim is.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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�acted out of impulse� while drunk, and he �could not control [his] urge to hurt such a young girl.�


The guy gets no sympathy from me.

10 years sounds about right.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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During that time, he also punched and slapped the victim in the face, stole a small amount of money from her wallet, dragged her across the room, threatened her with a knife and pair of scissors, and burned her breast with a lighter, among other things, according to court records and testimony.


If a person does this kind of thing once then I believe they are capable of doing it again. I've been plenty drunk many times but could never imagine myself doing this to a person.

He needs to be behind bars.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raped and tortured a 17-year-old girl and has the balls to say that it's the only thing he's ever done wrong in his life so they should be soft on him?

Throw a way the key, I say. Life in prison is too good for this guy.
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: You make the call Reply with quote

Stout wrote:
http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/korea/soldier-asks-for-reduction-of-10-year-sentence-for-rape-of-korean-girl-1.165186

�In [Flippin�s] case, his crime was done for about four hours, but the Korean man did it less than one hour,� Lee said. �Also, [Flippin] raped the victim several times. The Korean man raped the victim once for a moment. [Flippin] used a pen, a lighter, a knife and a pair of scissors. The Korean man used nothing.�


This is actually a pretty solid argument, though they didn't mention the relative ages of the victims.
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Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 years is a joke for rape. Rape should carry a minimum of 5 years. The Korean rapist should be on 5 years and the soldier should stay on his 10 years. Too many countries, including my own, are soft on rape. Punishments should be stronger.

Also a poster mentioned homosexual prisoners. The majority of rape in prisons is not based on homosexual feelings, rather a desire to have sexual power over someone. Many homosexual couples have a loving sex life which should not be compared to rape in prison.
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KNet229



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least 10
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akcrono



Joined: 11 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Korean got a reduced sentence because of restitution or remorse, the us solder should get it too. Really, both should get 10 years, but if you're gonna reduce some sentences, you should reduce them all. Otherwise it's institutionalized racism.
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ssuprnova



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In addition, he said Flippin �acted out of impulse� while drunk, and he �could not control [his] urge to hurt such a young girl.�


That freak should get a DD (dishonorable discharge) and locked up for 10 years, no parole. What kind of a person has an "impulse" to rape a girl multiple time over the span of 4 hours and isn't able to "control [his] urge to hurt such a young girl"?
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a marine biologist could get 20 years in prison for feeding a whale, then this dirtbag rapist should get life:

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-marine-biologist-accused-feeding-whale-221441552.html
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akcrono



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
If a marine biologist could get 20 years in prison for feeding a whale, then this dirtbag rapist should get life:

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-marine-biologist-accused-feeding-whale-221441552.html


"While these are the maximum sentences allowable by law, courts generally do not impose the maximum, instead relying on guidance from the U.S. Sentencing Commission."
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: You make the call Reply with quote

Stout wrote:
The Korean man raped the victim once for a moment. [Flippin] used a pen, a lighter, a knife and a pair of scissors. The Korean man used nothing.�

I guess the judge figured that the Korean guy was suffering enough as a premature ejaculator using "nothing".
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