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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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 Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: Tips for new posters |
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In an effort to make the board a little more welcoming to new users, I figured a little friendly advice would be helpful. Please add to it, and keep the snarkiness elsewhere.
1. Don't take anything too personally, sometimes we all have bad days and it's easier to growl at someone on a message board than deal with the actual problem.
2. If you're going to ask about a school- post the schools name in the thread title. It's a very smart idea to ask about a school before signing, but lots of people will skip over the thread unless it's clear what school you're asking about. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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Be nice.
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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Be yourself (on here) no matter what they say.
Works for me. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Okay. 
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JennyJJ
Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and newbies - please remember NOT to interrupt the old hand's conversations - even if they occur on a thread you initiated and are not relevant to what you had initially asked. Hijacks are their right. Besides, if you are not part of the in crowd - well, you know, you just aren't worth the effort. |
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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Peppermint, I'm sure your post is well intentioned, but it comes across as being condescending. This is just a message board. Go out and smell the roses. Leave the teacher at school. People will figure things out, trust me. |
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Crois
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: You could be next so watch out.
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Tips for new posters |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| In an effort to make the board a little more welcoming to new users, I figured a little friendly advice would be helpful. Please add to it, and keep the snarkiness elsewhere. |
Did you just fail to read this part of the OP???
Yes i see what this also makes me. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Use this thread as a stellar example of:
People starting out with good intentions only to be spat upon
People complaining that they feel left out the so-called "clique" (waaa!)
Newbies in your face with guns ablazing complaining that they haven't been made to feel welcome
and last but not least...
A regular poster actually trying to make life easier for newbies, and getting spat upon for it
Kind of ironic, don'tcha think? |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| Don't question, second-guess or state your opinion if contrary to any poster who has been here longer than you. Like Koreans, you must respect them and their views, no matter how ridiculous you may think they are. If you speak your mind or execise your basic freedom of speech, you will be labelled a "Troll" and/or "Flamer" and your post "Trolling" and "Flamebait". These terms are vague and vacuous, with no hard definition/distinction between them. |
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| if you are not part of the in crowd - well, you know, you just aren't worth the effort. |
Wipe the tears and stop being wusses, you whining little babies. Get in there and fight like a warrior! Everyone starts at the bottom. It's like voting: Unless you put in the effort to participate you have no right to complain.
And since I'm helping right now, I'll clear up some terminology:
A troll
First post in thread: "All Koreans are idiots. Screw you, Kim!" or, "All western chicks are tubby cows." or "Canadians are blah blah blah."
Flame-bait
"Of course you say that, you're a fan of Saddam. You're probably a homo as well."
Fredom of Speech
A wonderful concept to be found in the constitution of many nations. However, there are many people who use this right without respecting what it represents. Many see it as, "I can say whatever I want without consequence. Weee!"
Since there is no bill of rights on the internet, it is up to the host of the webpage/ messageboard to decide what they consider allowable.
Make no mistake, this is Sperling's house and as long as you're under his roof, you're following his rules. The mods are there to enforce his rules. They also take the brunt of the whining for him.
So be nice to them.
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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Waterbaby wrote:
People complaining that they feel left out the so-called "clique" (waaa!)
I don't think that anyone is complaining about being left out. I think it was just an observation ( and a fair one) on JJJ's part and more relevant to part of the culture of this board than a complaint. I'm sure JJJ has a life.
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A regular poster actually trying to make life easier for newbies, and getting spat upon for it
Newbies are adults, they got themselves here, they can cope. They can read the FAQ section. Sorry, but this thread came across just a tad condescending to me.
Anyway, it's time to go out and enjoy this beautiful day. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| SweetBear wrote: |
| This is just a message board. |
Gord, this is the opposite of true.
People say that all too easily and all too often. It's not just a message board. For better or worse, it's much MUCH more than that. It's a real community. Many people here know each other quite well through exchanging thoughts, opinions and ideas on the board and through the PM system. Many people have known each other for several years through this board. A lot of posters know each other socially and personally.
If it was just a message board, then why do people care enough to write that they think a post is condescending? Why do people complain that because they're not an old hand they're not worth the effort? Why do people complain when we edit, split or delete their posts or threads? I could go on and on... |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Good for peppermint. I think what she started with that OP could be built on constructively for the benefit of new users. |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Tips for new posters |
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| peppermint wrote: |
In an effort to make the board a little more welcoming to new users, I figured a little friendly advice would be helpful. Please add to it, and keep the snarkiness elsewhere.
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Peppermint has always tried to be helpful. She is just trying to make the new people easily adjust so they can fit in well. Give her a break. |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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*gives Peppermint a little pat on the rear*
Cheer up hun, we appreciate the effort. |
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JennyJJ
Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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BW said, "Wipe the tears and stop being wusses, you whining little babies. Get in there and fight like a warrior! Everyone starts at the bottom. It's like voting: Unless you put in the effort to participate you have no right to complain. "
The number one avenue for those with no real answer to a criticism is personal attack - and that is what we see with responses like "wusses" and "whining little babies". No where did I complain I was not part of the "clique" - I am not and don't care either way frankly. It really is okay.
I thought most of the criticism fair - sorry you couldn't handle it. And, I do participate, though I don't tend to use other's threads as my personal "chat line" as so many of the dominators of the board do. Nor do I choose to get involved in p*ssing contests, so I guess that rules out the �fight like a warrior� angle. Maybe more civilized behavior would be welcome?
The rudeness of many of the regulars on the board, the nasty attacks - and the frequent hijackings are a highlight of this board that keeps many of us away - and discourages new blood and new thinking. That too is okay - if you don't mind its limitations.
I'm not a newbie here - so I am not "at the bottom" - have probably spent more time in Korea than many of the so called "old hands" - but I hang out elsewhere, rather than just on the board.
Anyway, my part in the P*ssing contest is officially over. |
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