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F2 / F5 visas and pension

 
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: F2 / F5 visas and pension Reply with quote

I've been told by some people that if you get an F2 / F5 visa and aren't married to a Korean, then you don't get your pension back when you leave. Anyone know if there's any truth in this?
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r122925



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not true.

Some nationalities don't qualify for a lump some refund, and there are some other situations where you may not be able to get a lump sum refund... but it has nothing to do with your visa type or marriage status.

The biggest thing to consider as a long term resident is that after paying into the pension scheme for 10 years you become "vested" or "locked-in". That means that if you pay into the system for more than 10 years you cannot get a lump sum refund when you leave Korea. Instead, you will be entitled to monthly pension benefits when you reach retirement age.

I'm going to make a guess about what some of these people you talked to may have meant....

Many E-2 holders will claim their pension balance between contracts. (leave on a one way ticket, come back a few weeks later on a new visa). That will become very difficult once you've got an F-2. Since once you leave and cancel that F-2 visa, it's not going to be easy to get another one like it is for an E-2 or for someone who is married to a Korean.

But you can still claim all of your pension money when you leave Korea for good, provided that you have paid in for less than 10 years.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the info!

So those 10 years are in a row, right? I mean, peopel could leave, claim the money and come back again and work another 9 years or so?

I guess the clock is ticking as to how long I can stay.

Thanks again!
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r122925



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Thanks so much for the info!

So those 10 years are in a row, right? I mean, peopel could leave, claim the money and come back again and work another 9 years or so?


They don't necessarily need to be in a row... but 10 years without "cashing out". After you make your 120th monthly payment (even if you took some time off and it took more than 10 years to make all of the payments) into the pension plan without getting a refund then you will be locked in.

naturegirl321 wrote:
I guess the clock is ticking as to how long I can stay.


If you're opposed to receiving a retirement pension, then i guess it is.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I guess the clock is ticking as to how long I can stay.


r122925 wrote:
If you're opposed to receiving a retirement pension, then i guess it is.


I'm opposed to not having control over it. I could take the money, buy a house and earn $500 a month on rent, which beats what the govt would give me.
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r122925 wrote:

Since once you leave and cancel that F-2 visa, it's not going to be easy to get another one like it is for an E-2 or for someone who is married to a Korean.


You don't have to cancel the F2, but you must have finished your job and left the country. The pension service will call your employer to check, and will check immi if you've left - but you do not have to have canceled your F visa.

I've done it. I was out of the country for two weeks.


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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
r122925 wrote:

Since once you leave and cancel that F-2 visa, it's not going to be easy to get another one like it is for an E-2 or for someone who is married to a Korean.


You don't have to cancel the F2, but you must have quit your job and leave the country. The pension service will call your employer to check, and will check immi if you've left - but you do not have to have canceled your F visa.

I've done it.

Awesome. Loopholes Smile So finish your contract, get the money and come back.
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r122925



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:

You don't have to cancel the F2, but you must have quit your job and leave the country. The pension service will call your employer to check, and will check immi if you've left - but you do not have to have canceled your F visa.

I've done it.


Interesting... but that's not what the pension office told me when I talked to them about 3 months ago. Just curious, when did you do it? Has the policy changed? Or did the person I spoke to make a mistake?
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You asked? They don't want you to know how.

I did it in February.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
You asked? They don't want you to know how.

I did it in February.

How can I "like" this?
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
You asked? They don't want you to know how.

I did it in February.

How can I "like" this?


You just do this: +1 Razz
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