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Daniel1981



Joined: 30 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: New E2 requirements for simple renew in effect? Ttompatz? Reply with quote

Two teachers at my school have just signed a new contract to renew for another year. They both did Criminal Background Checks and Degree procedures when they first came to Korea last year as part of the new requirements then.

They've been told they need to renew their Visa (not just their ARC). So they have to submit new CBCs, resubmit their degree, etc..

I thought the new system was we just extend our ARC. 30,000won, passport, ARC card, the two school forms for business registration etc, and new contract..

Having to get a new visa, with CBCs and degree and everything is concerning....
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: New E2 requirements for simple renew in effect? Ttompatz Reply with quote

Daniel1981 wrote:
Two teachers at my school have just signed a new contract to renew for another year. They both did Criminal Background Checks and Degree procedures when they first came to Korea last year as part of the new requirements then.

They've been told they need to renew their Visa (not just their ARC). So they have to submit new CBCs, resubmit their degree, etc..

I thought the new system was we just extend our ARC. 30,000won, passport, ARC card, the two school forms for business registration etc, and new contract..

Having to get a new visa, with CBCs and degree and everything is concerning....


Unless they changed employers, why would they need a new visa?
I think the person in charge doesn't know what they are talking about if they are insisting that a new visa is necessary.

A simple extension of the status of sojourn would apply if they are at the same employer.

30k won for the extension
application
ARC
passport
new contract
copy of the business registration
letter of guarantee (sponsorship form).

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Daniel1981



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot ttompatz, that's reassuring. I like my school and want to stay. And I also want to clock as many years as I can on the same Visa without switching to a Visitor Visa. As with all the rumors going back and forth it seems there's a non-zero chance that time on 1 visa might be handy down the road.

If worse comes to worse and the people at my school are talking to the wrong immigration people, and they require a background check to be re-issued. Then I may need to see if someone at home can help me get my RCMP CRC/CBC processed faster than me mailing things back and forth.

Not sure if I should start a new thread, but as I don't want to pollute the other one that is going on:


Can anyone confirm if it is possible for someone back home (parent) to walk into the RCMP office and get a background check done for me (hence speeding up the processing time by removing mailtime)?

NOTE - I did it myself 13 months ago (Sept 2010) before I came to Korea.. Along with notarized copy of degree.. I have not left Korea since.


As far as I know, a fingerprint is not needed, only a national-lookup. So I am hoping my parents in Alberta can have this done for me, and they can get a notarized copy and send it to the consulate in Vancouver. I am thinking/hoping that is the fastest way possible.
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SeoulNate



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: New E2 requirements for simple renew in effect? Ttompatz Reply with quote

Daniel1981 wrote:
Two teachers at my school have just signed a new contract to renew for another year. They both did Criminal Background Checks and Degree procedures when they first came to Korea last year as part of the new requirements then.

They've been told they need to renew their Visa (not just their ARC). So they have to submit new CBCs, resubmit their degree, etc..

I thought the new system was we just extend our ARC. 30,000won, passport, ARC card, the two school forms for business registration etc, and new contract..

Having to get a new visa, with CBCs and degree and everything is concerning....


Just to give you an example. I JUST renewed last week without submitting anything (FBI CBC and apostilled degree were submitted last year when I resigned) other than my passport, ARC, some $$, immigration form and a copy of the contract.

Your immigration officer was blowing smoke.
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Daniel1981



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's really encouraging, thanks. I'm guessing the teachers at my school must have submitted different paperwork that was insufficient (maybe a local background check instead of national..) or it's a case of one immigration officer being more strict than another. I certainly see the logic in having to do what you had to do and *not* have to resubmit the forms after being in-country the whole time.

Thanks again!

I will follow-up once I know more to add my own experience..
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banjois



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that ttompatz has already assured me that if I submitted an embassy-approved CBC before the rule change that I'd be fine to re-sign again next year, but I'm looking for more assurance.

I did sign the whole "I'll get another background check" for next year when I re-signed in February. But then I didn't bother getting another one because it seems that according to the rules I don't have to. And I'm probably gonna re-sign again next February. And it's getting late to get another check from Canada if I do need one. And two Canadian co-workers just went to get fingerprints to get new CBCs...

Jeez. I think I just might wait and see. If they won't let me re-sign with existing documents I'll just head on out of country, even though I'd like to stay at my school....
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Feloria



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh-therin lies the problem.
If you signed the "I know I have to get a new set of documments sheet" when you were extending your visa, then what you were doing at the time was receiving the one extension that immigration was allowing for people who were in Korea before the new law was enforced.
The same thing happened to me last December.
My contract was up at the end of December; I extended it for 3 months and signed one of those sheets. After the three months was up, I had to get all new docs, including fingerprints, national CBC, apostilled copies of degrees; the whole shebang, even though I wanted to stay at my current job(and they wanted me)
I had to go back to the States to do all of this, but I hear it's easier to do it from Korea now.
Good Luck!
Just to clarify--the "one time option" extension was for any length of time with your current employer. It could be 3 months, 6 months, or a year with the current employer.
After that, if you DIDN'T GET an ENTIRE COUNTRY CBC with fingerprints and all before; you have to do it-even if you are staying with the same employer.


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banjois



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but here's the thing. I GET that you need a new national FBI check from the States. I'm from Canada. The only thing you could ever get was a national check. And it was approved by the consulate. But this was BEFORE they changed the rules, so god knows if they kept it on file....
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Feloria



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the thing-it was before the rule change.
Everything was totally messed up after the rule change.
That sheet that we signed at immigration applies to ALL documments, not just the CBC, from what I understand.
Even if you gave them your degrees before, now you have to give them Notarized and Apostilled copies of your degrees; regardless of what country you're from.
I know it's all a major pain!

Maybe your National check won't take so long since your Canadian.
I've also heard that if you're "in the process" of getting this crap done, immigration might take that into account.
In any event--Good Luck!
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Daniel1981



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to follow-up ttompatz was absolutely right. Since they already had the proper documents on-file from when I came last October, there was no need to resubmit the paperwork. I had national-CBC and appropriate notary seals from a notary and consular stamps etc.. I did sign the February document many teachers got about resubmitting documents but it was not required as the docs were all here. Everything played out quite rationally. Cool
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RSwanson26



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to resurrect this thread or anything, but I just went to the immigration office to extend my stay (I got here December 27, 2010, have to leave January 27, 2012), everything went smoothly, but they didn't do anything to my visa...they just wrote something on my ARC card. Will I have trouble when I leave in March?
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kardisa



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSwanson26 wrote:
Not to resurrect this thread or anything, but I just went to the immigration office to extend my stay (I got here December 27, 2010, have to leave January 27, 2012), everything went smoothly, but they didn't do anything to my visa...they just wrote something on my ARC card. Will I have trouble when I leave in March?


If your extension ends on January 27, then yes, you will have trouble if you attempt to leave in March. Razz

If, however, that was a typo (or poorly worded), you have nothing to worry about. Your information was updated in immi's computer system regardless of whether or not the visa in your passport was updated. You will have no problem leaving the country before the date your extension expires.
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Julius



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: New E2 requirements for simple renew in effect? Ttompatz Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
30k won for the extension
application
ARC
passport
new contract
copy of the business registration
letter of guarantee (sponsorship form).


+ school management licence.
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ren546



Joined: 17 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel1981 wrote:
Can anyone confirm if it is possible for someone back home (parent) to walk into the RCMP office and get a background check done for me (hence speeding up the processing time by removing mailtime)?

NOTE - I did it myself 13 months ago (Sept 2010) before I came to Korea.. Along with notarized copy of degree.. I have not left Korea since.


As far as I know, a fingerprint is not needed, only a national-lookup. So I am hoping my parents in Alberta can have this done for me, and they can get a notarized copy and send it to the consulate in Vancouver. I am thinking/hoping that is the fastest way possible.


You can do it if you're from a small town and someone at the police station knows you and your parents. If not, then you can still do it, but you'll need to give at least one of your parents Power of Attorney. If you go through a lawyer, it will cost you about $100.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel1981 wrote:
Thanks a lot ttompatz, that's reassuring. I like my school and want to stay. And I also want to clock as many years as I can on the same Visa without switching to a Visitor Visa. As with all the rumors going back and forth it seems there's a non-zero chance that time on 1 visa might be handy down the road.

If worse comes to worse and the people at my school are talking to the wrong immigration people, and they require a background check to be re-issued. Then I may need to see if someone at home can help me get my RCMP CRC/CBC processed faster than me mailing things back and forth.

Not sure if I should start a new thread, but as I don't want to pollute the other one that is going on:


Can anyone confirm if it is possible for someone back home (parent) to walk into the RCMP office and get a background check done for me (hence speeding up the processing time by removing mailtime)?

NOTE - I did it myself 13 months ago (Sept 2010) before I came to Korea.. Along with notarized copy of degree.. I have not left Korea since.


As far as I know, a fingerprint is not needed, only a national-lookup. So I am hoping my parents in Alberta can have this done for me, and they can get a notarized copy and send it to the consulate in Vancouver. I am thinking/hoping that is the fastest way possible.


If they have an embassy certified RCMP check on file you are good as gold.

The vast majority of CBC issues are from Americans who entered on state checks.

If you used your original degree you may need to get a K-consulate certified copy (not hard to do by mail and only takes a couple of weeks.

In between jobs, switch to a D10. this keeps you on the same status of sojourn so at the end of 5 years you can look at switching to an F-class visa. If you get a new visa (new status of sojourn) the clock starts again.

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