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Lucas
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KimchiNinja
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What is "the CNN Freedom Project"?
Cmon, these girls wanna make money. Why do they always make it sound like they are there against their will? |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| What is "the CNN Freedom Project"? |
The word 'freedom' has been overused in America since 9-11.
It's a way of reducing the amount of thinking that stupid people do.  |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| What is "the CNN Freedom Project"? |
It's a way of reducing the amount of thinking that stupid people do. |
Kkk.
And about the girl from the Philippines, cmon she was doing guys in her home country, then she learned she could make more money doing it in KR, so she took the opportunity. When she learned the news wanted to interview her and she could sue and get even more money, she took that opportunity too. These people are not innocent little flowers. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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There be a lot of gold diggers in them thar SE Asian countries. Couldn't load the video. Was it near a US Army base by any chance? I thought they imported them for US Soldiers because the Korean girls don't want 'em anymore. (Not rich enough.)
Knew a 58 year old teacher a few years ago who would hang out near the army base every weekend meeting Filipino girls. Never asked him in details. But he was stationed here in the 1980's as an officer and said they were all Korean girls back then. Different race, but same old pile of you know what.
I am sympathetic if a girl is enslaved. That is wrong, but if they are there making good bucks, that's something else.
I'll tell you I use to stay in hotels when I would visit Seoul and a couple of floors were reserved for tourists and travellers. Some other floors or rooms were reserved for hookers from the basement (business club). I've seen them and their ajossi partner for the moment coming up from the basement in the elevator going to their "assigned floor". Kind of creepy to see these young pretty girls going to be with an ajossi. Guess their love of money outweighs their dignity.
Most discusting memory I ever had, was waking in the middle of the night and going to the 7 11 across the street at 3 AM (from my hotel). While getting some snacks, I looked out the window and saw this very pretty 25ish girl. I was almost going to go out and say: "How you doin'" but she was waiting for a 60 or 70 year old bald ajossi smoking his super skinny long cigarette. He had the biggest frown you ever did see, althewhile, she came smiling up to hold his hand..."Oppa, bla bla...."
Thought I was going to barf right there.
At least she'll have a nice Gucci Bag to show off with. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Couldn't load the video. Was it near a US Army base by any chance? I thought they imported them for US Soldiers because the Korean girls don't want 'em anymore. |
Yup, near US base. Didn't know they were importing. Not likely they would need to enslave, plenty of SE Asians want to get imported.
Super bored at the office, crap another hour of internet surfing, until the boring company holiday party starts... |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| There are still plenty of Korean gold-diggers, but they have simply stepped up their game. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| There are still plenty of Korean gold-diggers, but they have simply stepped up their game. |
True, dat! The incomes have risen meaning an army salary ain't so hot anymore. The country was so poor that even being poor in America was better than being poor here.
I had been told by some old long timer ESLers that in the 90's, when the first batch of English teachers started coming over that an ESL salary was considered good by the Koreans. Then, after a few years, junior executives at Samsung made more and women liked them. Then came the 97' crash and English teachers looked good. It flipped back, along with unfavourable media coverage in 2002ish and hasn't been the same since.
Still, the younger generation has a different outlook than the older ones. Seoul girls are different from girls elsewhere. (To a point.) Still more gold diggers here than the west, but I don't think it's what it use to be. If your a decent guy, you can get a girl without all that bling. |
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kimchipig
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| There are still plenty of Korean gold-diggers, but they have simply stepped up their game. |
True, dat! The incomes have risen meaning an army salary ain't so hot anymore. The country was so poor that even being poor in America was better than being poor here.
I had been told by some old long timer ESLers that in the 90's, when the first batch of English teachers started coming over that an ESL salary was considered good by the Koreans. Then, after a few years, junior executives at Samsung made more and women liked them. Then came the 97' crash and English teachers looked good. It flipped back, along with unfavourable media coverage in 2002ish and hasn't been the same since.
Still, the younger generation has a different outlook than the older ones. Seoul girls are different from girls elsewhere. (To a point.) Still more gold diggers here than the west, but I don't think it's what it use to be. If your a decent guy, you can get a girl without all that bling. |
I arrived in Korea in 1994 and we were indeed privileged. With my base salary and couple of privates, I was bringing in W2.2m, which at the time was about $4000 Canadian. There was no rent and to tax, only utilities on my apartment. A 500 cc draft beer was W1000 in Seoul and W600 in the boonies. A 2 km taxi ride was W1000. We had loads of money and lived like kings. This kind of buying power for a 30 year old was unheard of in Korean of the time. Heck, most people didn't ever make this kind of money.
And yes, there were plenty of gold-diggers in those days. We were a ticket out of poverty for them. Even today, beneath Korea's shiny cover, there is a world most waygooks never see. |
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creeper1
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| Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:04 am Post subject: osan |
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I am quite familiar with juicy bars and I believe there are very few or none in Seoul.
I don't know why the report gives the location as being Seoul.
I can confirm there are plenty in Songtan near Osan air base.
Let's hope Filipino women don;t believe any stories of going to Korea to become singers. I mean you have to be pretty naive to believe that. |
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World Traveler
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| Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| With my base salary and couple of privates, I was bringing in W2.2m, which at the time was about $4000 Canadian. |
Which in today's money would be $6,000 Canadian. Did you send a lot of money home? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| The incomes have risen meaning an army salary ain't so hot anymore. The country was so poor that even being poor in America was better than being poor here. |
Soldiers make more than ESL teachers though. Their pay (and benefits package) isn't bad. But you're right. It's not as hot as it used to be (if we are strictly talking in comparison to the locals).
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| I had been told by some old long timer ESLers that in the 90's, when the first batch of English teachers started coming over that an ESL salary was considered good by the Koreans. |
Everywhere in the world women like money. Everywhere in the world too, ESL teachers are making less and less in comparison to the locals. For Asia as a whole, salaries have doubled in the past ten years. In China, they have tripled. Does an ESL teacher in Thailand (or Korea or Japan or Taiwan or Cambodia, etc.) make double what one could make ten years ago? Hell no. He makes the same or less. (Or in some cases slightly more…which doesn't begin to compensate for the increased cost of living within that time.) |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| kimchipig wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| There are still plenty of Korean gold-diggers, but they have simply stepped up their game. |
True, dat! The incomes have risen meaning an army salary ain't so hot anymore. The country was so poor that even being poor in America was better than being poor here.
I had been told by some old long timer ESLers that in the 90's, when the first batch of English teachers started coming over that an ESL salary was considered good by the Koreans. Then, after a few years, junior executives at Samsung made more and women liked them. Then came the 97' crash and English teachers looked good. It flipped back, along with unfavourable media coverage in 2002ish and hasn't been the same since.
Still, the younger generation has a different outlook than the older ones. Seoul girls are different from girls elsewhere. (To a point.) Still more gold diggers here than the west, but I don't think it's what it use to be. If your a decent guy, you can get a girl without all that bling. |
I arrived in Korea in 1994 and we were indeed privileged. With my base salary and couple of privates, I was bringing in W2.2m, which at the time was about $4000 Canadian. There was no rent and to tax, only utilities on my apartment. A 500 cc draft beer was W1000 in Seoul and W600 in the boonies. A 2 km taxi ride was W1000. We had loads of money and lived like kings. This kind of buying power for a 30 year old was unheard of in Korean of the time. Heck, most people didn't ever make this kind of money.
And yes, there were plenty of gold-diggers in those days. We were a ticket out of poverty for them. Even today, beneath Korea's shiny cover, there is a world most waygooks never see. |
Wow! It would have been so awesome to be here then. Seems no where is like that anymore from what I hear, though closer in comparison to here.
Girls must have loved you then. But, you prob got a lot of xenophobic hate too. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| The incomes have risen meaning an army salary ain't so hot anymore. The country was so poor that even being poor in America was better than being poor here. |
Soldiers make more than ESL teachers though. Their pay (and benefits package) isn't bad. But you're right. It's not as hot as it used to be (if we are strictly talking in comparison to the locals).
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| I had been told by some old long timer ESLers that in the 90's, when the first batch of English teachers started coming over that an ESL salary was considered good by the Koreans. |
Everywhere in the world women like money. Everywhere in the world too, ESL teachers are making less and less in comparison to the locals. For Asia as a whole, salaries have doubled in the past ten years. In China, they have tripled. Does an ESL teacher in Thailand (or Korea or Japan or Taiwan or Cambodia, etc.) make double what one could make ten years ago? Hell no. He makes the same or less. (Or in some cases slightly more…which doesn't begin to compensate for the increased cost of living within that time.) |
Do you mean officers or privates? I always heard privates don't make that much cash, but get good benefits and free housing. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the average active duty service member receives an Army benefits and pay compensation package worth $99,000. Noncash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Noncash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, child care and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this adds up to attractive military compensation for Soldiers. |
http://www.goarmy.com/benefits/total-compensation.html
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Those with a college degree go straight to officer (from every case I've heard of at least), meaning decent money. If you are joining for the first time, I think you have to be 30 years old or younger, though. Overall, not a bad deal. I've heard a lot of people speak highly of the military experience. |
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