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Farron T



Joined: 12 Feb 2012

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: No degree = no job? Reply with quote

I have searched the last 25 pages of these forums and could not find a relevant topic about this. So if there one please link me >.~

Moving on...

I plan to move to Korea by the end of March. I would like to be there for up to a year. Here are the snags: I have no degree and I'm American. So no H-1 visa for me. Also, as I have no degree I know I can't get that E-2 visa.

I am aware that having a degree of some kind is mandatory for teaching. But I'm really open to almost any kind of work.

Anyone have any kind of ideas for my situation?
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No degree = no job. Correct. At least teaching. I can't imagine another scenario; most people are here with minimum (undergrad) or advanced qualifications doing something, even if it isn't teaching.

Whatever you might be doing here, it won't be legal.


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Farron T



Joined: 12 Feb 2012

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to move there at the encouragement of several friends already there. I'm still young and I love to travel. There are several things "missing" from my story. However, I did not want to bombard readers with every detail that no one would want to read. hahaha

I'm aware that most people think that teaching is the only way to go. However, I really cannot believe that that is the one and only way.
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sethzor



Joined: 03 Feb 2012

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're still young, you could always get a degree first?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wish to come to South Korea legally and longer than the length of a tourist visa for American citizens, then you must have qualifications for a job. You cannot just show up with no prospect of gainful employment. Qualifications for jobs such as teaching include a baccalaureate. For other jobs besides 3D jobs, you will certainly need a diploma and some kind of certification of your qualifications.

If you do come over here and work illegally, expect to get caught. And by get caught, I mean you will be detained until your hearing is over and your fines are paid.
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fullcollapseCA



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Location: Cheongju-@ a Hagwon

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of a program in South Korea for people without degree's teaching in rural cities. You might want to Google it to see if it is still around.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: No degree = no job? Reply with quote

Farron T wrote:
I have searched the last 25 pages of these forums and could not find a relevant topic about this. So if there one please link me >.~

Moving on...

I plan to move to Korea by the end of March. I would like to be there for up to a year. Here are the snags: I have no degree and I'm American. So no H-1 visa for me. Also, as I have no degree I know I can't get that E-2 visa.

I am aware that having a degree of some kind is mandatory for teaching. But I'm really open to almost any kind of work.

Anyone have any kind of ideas for my situation?


You are correct.
You cannot get a working holiday visa (American).
You cannot get a work visa.

There is no job you can do that a Korean can't do (that doesn't require a degree/advanced training/extensive experience). Almost a universal requirement globally for foreign migrant workers (otherwise why kick out the Mexicans from the States?)

E1 = professor
E2 = teacher of foreign languages
E3 = research
E4 = technology transfer
E5 = professional employment
E6 = maybe / Artistic performer (are you a rock star?)
E7 = Designated activities (masters degree or bachelor and 5 years experience).
E8 / E9 DDD trainer/worker (factory worker).

OR one of the "D" categories (factory trainee/worker from a 3rd world country / student).

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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP's friends couldn't be that good or they would tell him to get the degree first Idea
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it 60 hours of college coursework to work in the Topik program?


Do those on entertainer visas need at least completion of vocational college educaiton? Perhaps the OP can dance, model or B-Boy.


Did the Russians who worked up in Paju at the English village have degrees?


Tourist visa is 90 days. I'm sure the OP wouldn't be the first to teach privates even without finisihing collegiate education.
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Is it 60 hours of college coursework to work in the Topik program?


Do those on entertainer visas need at least completion of vocational college educaiton? Perhaps the OP can dance, model or B-Boy.


Did the Russians who worked up in Paju at the English village have degrees?


Tourist visa is 90 days. I'm sure the OP wouldn't be the first to teach privates even without finisihing collegiate education.



Love the tacit approval. Sure....come on over, get caught for whatever and let us once again deal with the potential repercussions of idiocy.

OP....there is nothing here for you except sightseeing.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it legal to teach with no degree - no.

Do I / have I known people that have made good coin teaching without a degree on tourist visas - yes.

Are you desperate? Why do you want to come to Korea and work ILLEGALLY? You'd HAVE TO be a very desperate individual to want to do that imho.
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modernseoul



Joined: 11 Sep 2011
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have the money, you could come here as a student. I order to study Korean at pretty much every university here all you require is a high school diploma. Then after 20weeks of full time studying you can work part-time legally.

It is the only way I can think of unless you want to earn $4 per hour in a factory or work illegally and the risks involved with that.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're a skilled worker, you might be able to get a job in your field if demand is high for your skills and few Koreans possess them. But, nowadays, Korean companies usually send their employees abroad to study in order to acquire the certifications and skills which aren't taught here.

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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farron T wrote:
I want to move there at the encouragement of several friends already there. I'm still young and I love to travel. There are several things "missing" from my story. However, I did not want to bombard readers with every detail that no one would want to read. hahaha

I'm aware that most people think that teaching is the only way to go. However, I really cannot believe that that is the one and only way.


I'm actually quite curious as to what would inspire you to move here and work illegally indefinitely. Thailand or China I could understand a bit more, but Korea is better for legal living and the benefits that offers you than it is for under the table travel destination.
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Farron T



Joined: 12 Feb 2012

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
The OP's friends couldn't be that good or they would tell him to get the degree first Idea

Please excuse my friends for not being experts in the field. I thought, they like all Korean people, might just know the in's and out's for foreigner's trying to come to their country. Once again, I apologize.

Carbon wrote:
matthews_world wrote:
Is it 60 hours of college coursework to work in the Topik program?

Do those on entertainer visas need at least completion of vocational college educaiton? Perhaps the OP can dance, model or B-Boy.

Did the Russians who worked up in Paju at the English village have degrees?
Tourist visa is 90 days. I'm sure the OP wouldn't be the first to teach privates even without finisihing collegiate education.



Love the tacit approval. Sure....come on over, get caught for whatever and let us once again deal with the potential repercussions of idiocy.

OP....there is nothing here for you except sightseeing.

Whoever said I wanted to work illegally? Let's think for a minute. If I open a topic stating legal facts and asking asking for advice, then why would anyone assume I'm idiotically trying to do something illegal? I am very aware that most everyone thinks that teaching is the only legal way to go. However, I'm looking for those few whose knowledge in these matters is a little bigger. If that is not you, then I thank you for your thoughts.

P.S. WHEN I find work, I promise to do tremendous amounts of sightseeing. I intend to climb several mountains and try out Korea's waters for scuba diving.
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