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pegasus64128
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country |
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This one slipped under my radar - seems like an interesting site.
http://www.prosperity.com/country.aspx?id=KR
It's nice vindication for those of you who care that Korea ranks high in education but has it's share of social problems. |
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kimchikowboy
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Average Life Satisfaction Ranking 104th / 110
That's not good.
Edit: If you go to the home page, you can scroll across a map and one of the items presented for each country is average life satisfaction. Unless I miscount, there are more countries that rank below Korea (particularly in Africa) than the above numbers indicate, so there seems to be a proofreading problem or a problem with how the data is displayed. |
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72crown
Joined: 12 Aug 2009
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Well, if nothing else it makes me feel a bit better about being an australian kk |
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IncognitoHFX2
Joined: 15 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:24 am Post subject: |
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I don't see how the US ranks #1 in terms of health! I have a friend who is stuck here because she can't afford the medicine she needs to survive in the US (yet it costs pennies here) nor can she get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition).
I'm not sure if this variable is meant to include healthcare but if it is, this couldn't be more false. America has the worst access to healthcare in the developed world, not the best as claimed here.
I'm tempted to disregard the entire website on the basis of this.
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Health - Ranked 1st
High government health expenditure leads to improved health outcomes in the United States
US citizens have a life expectancy of 70 years, when adjusted for healthy years lived, which ranks the country 27th, on this variable. Below average rates of infant mortality and undernourishment rank the United States 36th and fourth, respectively. Government health expenditure per capita is the highest in the world; this high level of spending, however, results in only average provision of hospital beds, but above average rates of immunisation for infectious diseases and measles, and the world�s second lowest incidence of tuberculosis. It also means that the entire US population has access to improved sanitation facilities. However, the US places 60th for its comparatively high incidence of respiratory disease. In 2010, around 90%* of respondents were satisfied with the quality of water in their area. Public perceptions of health vary; while 86%* of the population was content with their personal health in 2010, an above average 33%* had felt worried for a significant amount of the day before being surveyed. Perhaps consequently, the United States ranks 50th with regard to the share of the population that feels well-rested. However, the fact that only 21%* reported debilitating health problems in 2010 indicates a more positive situation. Also, a high level of satisfaction with the beauty of the immediate environment places the United States 20th*, on this variable. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX2 wrote: |
I don't see how the US ranks #1 in terms of health! I have a friend who is stuck here because she can't afford the medicine she needs to survive in the US (yet it costs pennies here) nor can she get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition).
I'm not sure if this variable is meant to include healthcare but if it is, this couldn't be more false. America has the worst access to healthcare in the developed world, not the best as claimed here.
I'm tempted to disregard the entire website on the basis of this.
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Health - Ranked 1st
High government health expenditure leads to improved health outcomes in the United States
US citizens have a life expectancy of 70 years, when adjusted for healthy years lived, which ranks the country 27th, on this variable. Below average rates of infant mortality and undernourishment rank the United States 36th and fourth, respectively. Government health expenditure per capita is the highest in the world; this high level of spending, however, results in only average provision of hospital beds, but above average rates of immunisation for infectious diseases and measles, and the world�s second lowest incidence of tuberculosis. It also means that the entire US population has access to improved sanitation facilities. However, the US places 60th for its comparatively high incidence of respiratory disease. In 2010, around 90%* of respondents were satisfied with the quality of water in their area. Public perceptions of health vary; while 86%* of the population was content with their personal health in 2010, an above average 33%* had felt worried for a significant amount of the day before being surveyed. Perhaps consequently, the United States ranks 50th with regard to the share of the population that feels well-rested. However, the fact that only 21%* reported debilitating health problems in 2010 indicates a more positive situation. Also, a high level of satisfaction with the beauty of the immediate environment places the United States 20th*, on this variable. |
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I don't know what to make of health in the US. I met a woman from Malaysia who says the money for care is always there if you look for it, but if you don't look, you're screwed. |
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IncognitoHFX2
Joined: 15 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| It is a system that has no problem letting people die if they don't have enough money. |
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ajosshi
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| kimchikowboy wrote: |
Average Life Satisfaction Ranking 104th / 110
That's not good.
Edit: If you go to the home page, you can scroll across a map and one of the items presented for each country is average life satisfaction. Unless I miscount, there are more countries that rank below Korea (particularly in Africa) than the above numbers indicate, so there seems to be a proofreading problem or a problem with how the data is displayed. |
I think this question could fall victim to different interpretations.
We see "Satisfaction" and interpret to mean happiness, or at least contentment. Other people might have the belief that you shouldn't be satisfied with mediocrity and push yourself to excel at what you do.
Satisfaction is kind of silly if you're marginally successful at what you do and could be doing more but are instead satisfied with plopping down in front of the TV and ordering a pizza.
I mean even at an artistic level, one shouldn't be satisfied because there's more music out there to listen to, more books to read, more hobbies to try, etc.
As for being ranked 24th, I can't get the page to load, so it might be different here, but I've noticed on similar surveys that there is often a very small margin between about 30th-12th on these rankings so as to make any difference in ranking a marginal one at best. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: ok |
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| IncognitoHFX2 wrote: |
I don't see how the US ranks #1 in terms of health! I have a friend who is stuck here because she can't afford the medicine she needs to survive in the US (yet it costs pennies here) nor can she get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition).
I'm not sure if this variable is meant to include healthcare but if it is, this couldn't be more false. America has the worst access to healthcare in the developed world, not the best as claimed here.
I'm tempted to disregard the entire website on the basis of this.
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Health - Ranked 1st
High government health expenditure leads to improved health outcomes in the United States
US citizens have a life expectancy of 70 years, when adjusted for healthy years lived, which ranks the country 27th, on this variable. Below average rates of infant mortality and undernourishment rank the United States 36th and fourth, respectively. Government health expenditure per capita is the highest in the world; this high level of spending, however, results in only average provision of hospital beds, but above average rates of immunisation for infectious diseases and measles, and the world�s second lowest incidence of tuberculosis. It also means that the entire US population has access to improved sanitation facilities. However, the US places 60th for its comparatively high incidence of respiratory disease. In 2010, around 90%* of respondents were satisfied with the quality of water in their area. Public perceptions of health vary; while 86%* of the population was content with their personal health in 2010, an above average 33%* had felt worried for a significant amount of the day before being surveyed. Perhaps consequently, the United States ranks 50th with regard to the share of the population that feels well-rested. However, the fact that only 21%* reported debilitating health problems in 2010 indicates a more positive situation. Also, a high level of satisfaction with the beauty of the immediate environment places the United States 20th*, on this variable. |
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I think they mean standard of living within this ranking. The health care may be crap, but the standard of living, cleanliness, way of life or whatever is good. As for an example, I had my appendix taken out when I didn't have health insurance. I was able to claim a 100% write off that saved me from having to pay 20k dollars. Granted I was still a student at the time with no job so I'm pretty sure that helped. Although, the nurse told me that you just have to request a low income form to fill out. The hospital of course won't tell you that, but she felt sympathetic toward me and offered it to me. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| kimchikowboy wrote: |
Average Life Satisfaction Ranking 104th / 110
That's not good.
Edit: If you go to the home page, you can scroll across a map and one of the items presented for each country is average life satisfaction. Unless I miscount, there are more countries that rank below Korea (particularly in Africa) than the above numbers indicate, so there seems to be a proofreading problem or a problem with how the data is displayed. |
I think this question could fall victim to different interpretations.
We see "Satisfaction" and interpret to mean happiness, or at least contentment. Other people might have the belief that you shouldn't be satisfied with mediocrity and push yourself to excel at what you do.
Satisfaction is kind of silly if you're marginally successful at what you do and could be doing more but are instead satisfied with plopping down in front of the TV and ordering a pizza.
I mean even at an artistic level, one shouldn't be satisfied because there's more music out there to listen to, more books to read, more hobbies to try, etc.
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This might be what you're looking for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_development_index
But it's a very difficult thing to measure, impossible really. It's approximation. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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It's koreas time . but will it be that way for long.
the world is moving heavily into a technological era. wont be long before we see more and more countries starting to manufacture electronics which will reduce samsungs, lgs market dominance, cars GM is making a huge come back again. so sure great for Korea now. so this is the best time to be living here in Korea. |
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DIsbell
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX2 wrote: |
I don't see how the US ranks #1 in terms of health! I have a friend who is stuck here because she can't afford the medicine she needs to survive in the US (yet it costs pennies here) nor can she get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition).
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Well, pretty soon she should be able to come back thanks to Obamacare. |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:44 am Post subject: Re: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country |
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| pegasus64128 wrote: |
This one slipped under my radar - seems like an interesting site.
http://www.prosperity.com/country.aspx?id=KR
It's nice vindication for those of you who care that Korea ranks high in education but has it's share of social problems. |
Average Life Satisfaction Ranking
104th / 110
LOL. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country |
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| Kimchifart wrote: |
| pegasus64128 wrote: |
This one slipped under my radar - seems like an interesting site.
http://www.prosperity.com/country.aspx?id=KR
It's nice vindication for those of you who care that Korea ranks high in education but has it's share of social problems. |
Average Life Satisfaction Ranking
104th / 110
LOL. |
Koreans could have a GDP per capita of $150k and a 30 hour workweek and every single family in Korea could have a single family house with a white picket fence, and their average life satisfaction ranking would still be 104th/110. They spend too much time caring what other people think instead of living their lives, to hell with people you don't know. |
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IncognitoHFX2
Joined: 15 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| DIsbell wrote: |
| IncognitoHFX2 wrote: |
I don't see how the US ranks #1 in terms of health! I have a friend who is stuck here because she can't afford the medicine she needs to survive in the US (yet it costs pennies here) nor can she get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition).
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Well, pretty soon she should be able to come back thanks to Obamacare. |
If it doesn't get blocked before it comes into effect. When Santorum becomes president, anything could happen  |
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