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Kinbensha
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: Did the GEPIK payscale change? Category 2 requirements? |
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Everything in English I can find says that a category 3 instructor (nothing but a BA) will move up to a category two worker (a BA, plus one of the following: a TESOL/TEFL cert of 100 hours, a year of experience, or if your degree was in English/Education/Linguistics) the following month if one receives a TEFL certificate.
However, my school has a "Native English teacher" guidebook that says, with no English translation (although I can read it well enough with my Korean language background) that Category 3 *requires* a TESOL/TEFL certificate.
Did the GEPIK pay scale change? Why is my school claiming that getting my 120 hour TEFL certificate won't qualify me for Category 2 status?
Thanks for your help. |
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Otherside
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swinewho
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Category S 2500000 KRW per month - Contract renewal as a Category 1+ at the same school |
Cat 'S' = special? |
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Kinbensha
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link.
Since I was hired during the time when the pay scale made a TEFL category 2, do I have a case that I should get the pay increase?
Or, more likely, would this never fly and I should just shut up and accept that I won't be reimbursed for my investment in a TEFL class? |
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Modernist
Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Since I was hired during the time when the pay scale made a TEFL category 2, do I have a case that I should get the pay increase?
Or, more likely, would this never fly and I should just shut up and accept that I won't be reimbursed for my investment in a TEFL class? |
As with everything in Korea, try #1 while recognizing that it has <1% of success, and then resign yourself to #2. |
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Kinbensha
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'll try that.
I need to be able to contact someone official working in the GEPIK program in the Gyeonggi-do Educational Office, but no matter how hard I google, I can't seem to find their official website. I keep finding other websites talking *about* GEPIK.
Does anyone have contact information for English-speaking representatives of the GEPIK program? Preferably ones you know will honor the pay scale of a contract signed in 2011?  |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have contact information for English-speaking representatives of the GEPIK program? Preferably ones you know will honor the pay scale of a contract signed in 2011? |
They are "honoring" the pay scale. You were hired as a level 3 earning 2.0 per month, and you are still a level 3 earning 2.0 per month. If they were to fire you because you didn't meet the requirements of level 3 under the new scale, or drop your salary because the goalposts have moved, that would be cause for complaint.
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Or, more likely, would this never fly and I should just shut up and accept that I won't be reimbursed for my investment in a TEFL class? |
If you choose to work another year in public schools, it's now a requirement, so effectively you will be reimbursed for your effort, and if you renew with GEPIK, you'll be bumped to 2+, getting a 200k raise. If not, then it sucks, but at least you learned something. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Of course they don't want to actually hire anyone in the upper payscale though.
Too scary to actually have someone who knows what they're doing. Frivolous 19 year old blondes is what the principals want...to stroke their ego at lunchtime. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Kinbensha wrote: |
Thanks for the link.
Since I was hired during the time when the pay scale made a TEFL category 2, do I have a case that I should get the pay increase?
Or, more likely, would this never fly and I should just shut up and accept that I won't be reimbursed for my investment in a TEFL class? |
The second one.
I was Level 1+ under the old pay scale last July. That was the end of my second contract with the same school.
Went home for several months and this time around was only qualified for Level 1 under the new pay scale...since anything above Level 1 requires you to have already worked Level 1 under the current standards. It didn't matter what level I was at under the old requirements. And the wording of anything over Level 1 suggests that promotion has to be from within the Korean public school system.
The fact that I have two years public school experience in Japan and two years public school experience in Korea doesn't seem to get me above Level 1 based on the wording of the pay scale (both the old one and the new one).
I probably could have made a stink about it, but then my school wouldn't have been able to afford me, which is fine in principle, but where would that leave me? Anyway, I was specifically hired by my old principal and I like him so... working at a public school where you know you have a good environment has its perks.
It's true that had I renewed at my previous school last July, I'd have been at Level S now. But more likely I would have changed schools anyway (since the new administration was hell) and would have stayed at Level 1+. So, it's not far off from where I would have been anyway. But it does suck much. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Of course they don't want to actually hire anyone in the upper payscale though.
Too scary to actually have someone who knows what they're doing. Frivolous 19 year old blondes is what the principals want...to stroke their ego at lunchtime. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Of course they don't want to actually hire anyone in the upper payscale though.
Too scary to actually have someone who knows what they're doing. Frivolous 19 year old blondes is what the principals want...to stroke their ego at lunchtime. |
I would want a 19 year old prodigy working for me too. How many 19 year olds do you know with a 4 year university degree? Or as you said, "upper payscale". So that must mean they hold advancded degrees and/or multiple years of experience at a public school, meaning they actually would have graduated univeristy at 18 or 17.
I'd stroke my own ego too if I could attract that kind of talent to work for me. |
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Kinbensha
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I would want a 19 year old prodigy working for me too. How many 19 year olds do you know with a 4 year university degree? |
I know *many*. I'm one of many students who have attended early entrance to university programs in the US. I graduated at 19, but honestly that's not that impressive. My old roommate graduated at 17 and entered medical school before his 18th birthday.
Guys, GOOD NEWS! I got my pay raise! If you signed your contract under the old pay scale and you get a TEFL/TESOL certificate (which would have made you category 2 before), push the issue about your raise. If they call the Gyeonggi-do education office, they should confirm that you should receive your raise, but your next contract signing will be under the new payscale, of course. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Kinbensha wrote: |
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| I would want a 19 year old prodigy working for me too. How many 19 year olds do you know with a 4 year university degree? |
I know *many*. I'm one of many students who have attended early entrance to university programs in the US. I graduated at 19, but honestly that's not that impressive. My old roommate graduated at 17 and entered medical school before his 18th birthday.
Guys, GOOD NEWS! I got my pay raise! If you signed your contract under the old pay scale and you get a TEFL/TESOL certificate (which would have made you category 2 before), push the issue about your raise. If they call the Gyeonggi-do education office, they should confirm that you should receive your raise, but your next contract signing will be under the new payscale, of course. |
And how many are blonde? 
My point is that Julius is always complaining about something and is now spreading the idea that only new young blonde North Americans can get work here. Which is ridiculous. He will say anything to complain about Korea. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Kinbensha wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| I would want a 19 year old prodigy working for me too. How many 19 year olds do you know with a 4 year university degree? |
I know *many*. I'm one of many students who have attended early entrance to university programs in the US. I graduated at 19, but honestly that's not that impressive. My old roommate graduated at 17 and entered medical school before his 18th birthday.
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You have a news story or anything to confirm that? Because that would be considered news...at least in the local paper.
A 16 year old attending law school is apparently big news...can't see why a 17 year old attending medical school wouldn't be/
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/09/28/1523683/motivated-16-year-old-enters-nccu.html
And let's get real...someone like that is not likely to be teaching in Korea for $2000 a month or less when they could make far more money and have a successful career back home. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Kinbensha wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| I would want a 19 year old prodigy working for me too. How many 19 year olds do you know with a 4 year university degree? |
Guys, GOOD NEWS! I got my pay raise! If you signed your contract under the old pay scale and you get a TEFL/TESOL certificate (which would have made you category 2 before), push the issue about your raise. If they call the Gyeonggi-do education office, they should confirm that you should receive your raise, but your next contract signing will be under the new payscale, of course. |
Right on. I didn't see the part in your first post where you mention you'd already signed a contract before the change in the pay scale. In that case, I would expect you to be grandfathered in...even if you have to push the issue. But glad you got it. |
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