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Geckoman
Joined: 07 Jun 2007
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dirving
Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the post. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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It's a basic failure of logic on the part of Koreans.
Foreigners frequently get voluntary HIV tests -> Lots of foreigners must have HIV.
The scary thing to me is that Koreans DON'T get voluntary HIV tests. So it's probably MORE risky to have unprotected sex with a random Korean than with a random foreigner! At least the foreigner will be able to tell you the last time he or she got tested! |
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AussieGav
Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Location: Uijeongbu
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I just finished the article myself. Interesting how Immi is distancing themselves from blanket annual testing. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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redaxe wrote: |
It's a basic failure of logic on the part of Koreans.
Foreigners frequently get voluntary HIV tests -> Lots of foreigners must have HIV. |
Friend, it's even worse "logic" than that!
a. Foreigners frequently get mandatory HIV tests.
b. Clinics catering to foreigners have a high number of foreigners getting tested for HIV.
c. Therefore, lots of foreigners must have HIV! |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Can't wait to see how this plays out.
You know the old saying, "The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing", right?
In Korea, the left hand doesn't even know it's a left hand. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Man, what is with the Korea Herald lately? They're on their way to actually being the first respectable English newspaper in the country. A good long run of articles lately that actually have deeper criticism of Korea than "kimchi is spicy." |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Remember ATEK's campaign about equal tests for all? Well it looks like the opposition to ATEK has been proven right again, at least in regards to SMOE. They will be testing all foreign teachers "regardless of visa type". |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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TUM: Did you notice in the story that SMOE's response for why they're requiring it is "It's the law" although it's not the law? |
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Mithrae
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Another thing about SMOE. Although Immigration says our criminal record checks must be no older than 6 months old, SMOE has decided that it will only accept CBC's that are no older than three months. So all of you who already got your checks done for the Feb./March jobs. Guess what? You have to get them done again. By March they'll be older than three months. Back to the police station for more fingerprints.
The thing is, the CBC checks are an immigration requirement. I don't know how SMOE can supercede immigration of this matter. Maybe it's their way of saying 'go to hell' as a reaction to the massive criticism we threw at them after those last-minute job cancellations a while back. Or someone on the SMOE board is a card-carrying member of that anti-English Spectrum group. Who knows.
Either way, it's just another headache, and one more example of nothing ever being implemented in a consistent, rational manner in this friggin country. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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I worked in Singapore and was required to have an HIV test for each visa, including renewals. As were all my expat friends/coworkers. Nobody moaned about it. None. Then, I applied for and received an American visa. Also had to take an HIV test. Both also required TB exams/x-rays. The Americans needed a criminal reference check. My better half has Canadian PR and they needed criminal checks too. That's life.
Will you people stop whining about this? If the Koreans want an HIV test give them one. If they want 10, give them 10. You are a guest. It's their house. You're embarrassing all Occidentals with this childish nonsense about "stigma" and "discrimination". It is their house. Not yours. Theirs. If they want you to submit a rectal exam, you do it. If you don't want to, don't live there. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
I worked in Singapore and was required to have an HIV test for each visa, including renewals. As were all my expat friends/coworkers. Nobody moaned about it. None. Then, I applied for and received an American visa. Also had to take an HIV test. Both also required TB exams/x-rays. The Americans needed a criminal reference check. My better half has Canadian PR and they needed criminal checks too. That's life.
Will you people stop whining about this? If the Koreans want an HIV test give them one. If they want 10, give them 10. You are a guest. It's their house. You're embarrassing all Occidentals with this childish nonsense about "stigma" and "discrimination". It is their house. Not yours. Theirs. If they want you to submit a rectal exam, you do it. If you don't want to, don't live there. |
B-b-but... we're SPECIAL. We can speak ENGLISH! They should bow down before us! |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Of course you need a new CBC in your home country, especially after you spent all your time over here in Korea making the authorities paranoid thinking you might have found a way to warp back home one night, commit a crime, and return the next day to teach
You got to hand it to these Korean officers, they leave no rock unturned. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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What a fantastically well-written and researched article.
It is sad that without reading the article you might think that mises actually had anything to say besides hot air. After actually reading the article, I have to say that what mises wrote is a bunch of baseless nonesense. Rule of law is something I think we can all respect. |
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Old Gil

Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Location: Got out! olleh!
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Mises logic: "if a country makes a law, we must respect it no matter how stupid, because it's a LAW. A PRETTY SHINY LAW!" |
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