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ronreezy
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 Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:35 am Post subject: My brother has to leave Korea, but he doesn't want to go! |
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My brother has been teaching English in Korea for about 2 years, through the TaLK program. He was expecting his contract to be renewed in February, but alas, it was not. He went to Japan to get a small extension on the amount of time he could stay, but the tourist visa ends in May.
He has been trying to find a way to stay, but cannot be hired at any hagwons because he doesn't have a 4 year degree. He has an 2 year, but I guess that doesn't cut it. He loves it out here and doesn't want to go back to the States! Any recommendations on what he can do?? |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Marry a Korean and then maybe you can get an F visa to allow you to do privates. However, even if this was easy and happened, I don't know if this is the best thing for him.
If he has the money, he could go to school in Korea, kill two jiggaes with one pepper (ok I made that up  ). Then, he could work.
Go out into the woods and live in the forest. Pack extra kimchi if you accept this challenge.
Personally, I would go the education route, either in Korea or back home. Then you don't have to worry about these issues. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:00 am Post subject: Re: My brother has to leave Korea, but he doesn't want to go |
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| ronreezy wrote: |
My brother has been teaching English in Korea for about 2 years, through the TaLK program. He was expecting his contract to be renewed in February, but alas, it was not. He went to Japan to get a small extension on the amount of time he could stay, but the tourist visa ends in May.
He has been trying to find a way to stay, but cannot be hired at any hagwons because he doesn't have a 4 year degree. He has an 2 year, but I guess that doesn't cut it. He loves it out here and doesn't want to go back to the States! Any recommendations on what he can do?? |
Why can't he stay in the TaLK program and work at a different location? |
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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| Go back and get another degree? Work in China? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: Re: My brother has to leave Korea, but he doesn't want to go |
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| ronreezy wrote: |
My brother has been teaching English in Korea for about 2 years, through the TaLK program. He was expecting his contract to be renewed in February, but alas, it was not. He went to Japan to get a small extension on the amount of time he could stay, but the tourist visa ends in May.
He has been trying to find a way to stay, but cannot be hired at any hagwons because he doesn't have a 4 year degree. He has an 2 year, but I guess that doesn't cut it. He loves it out here and doesn't want to go back to the States! Any recommendations on what he can do?? |
Apparently your brother is quite young. He has a life ahead of him. He should go back to school in the US and finish his degree in something that interests him and then take another look at the world and what he wants to do and where he wants to be. There will still be decades of choices, chances and opportunities ahead of him with more doors open because he has that stupid little piece of paper showing that he can stick with it and achieve some small goal. Someday he'll be glad he finished that degree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHB4hfg0wY |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
Marry a Korean and then maybe you can get an F visa to allow you to do privates. However, even if this was easy and happened, I don't know if this is the best thing for him.
If he has the money, he could go to school in Korea, kill two jiggaes with one pepper (ok I made that up ). Then, he could work.
Go out into the woods and live in the forest. Pack extra kimchi if you accept this challenge.
Personally, I would go the education route, either in Korea or back home. Then you don't have to worry about these issues. |
I'm pretty sure that going to school in Korea isn't an option if you want to be on an E2. I heard about one guy who got his undergrad here, taught for years and then got the boot with the new visa regulations in '08. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
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Marry a Korean and then maybe you can get an F visa to allow you to do privates. However, even if this was easy and happened, I don't know if this is the best thing for him.
If he has the money, he could go to school in Korea, kill two jiggaes with one pepper (ok I made that up ). Then, he could work.
Go out into the woods and live in the forest. Pack extra kimchi if you accept this challenge.
Personally, I would go the education route, either in Korea or back home. Then you don't have to worry about these issues. |
I'm pretty sure that going to school in Korea isn't an option if you want to be on an E2. I heard about one guy who got his undergrad here, taught for years and then got the boot with the new visa regulations in '08. |
And I am pretty sure that if you want to be on an E2, that you need more than 2 years at college. The idea wasn't to get an E2, but get an education that would get you a degree, and then get the E2. That's what I did, but I went to China because it was cheaper. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
Marry a Korean and then maybe you can get an F visa to allow you to do privates. However, even if this was easy and happened, I don't know if this is the best thing for him.
If he has the money, he could go to school in Korea, kill two jiggaes with one pepper (ok I made that up ). Then, he could work.
Go out into the woods and live in the forest. Pack extra kimchi if you accept this challenge.
Personally, I would go the education route, either in Korea or back home. Then you don't have to worry about these issues. |
I'm pretty sure that going to school in Korea isn't an option if you want to be on an E2. I heard about one guy who got his undergrad here, taught for years and then got the boot with the new visa regulations in '08. |
And I am pretty sure that if you want to be on an E2, that you need more than 2 years at college. The idea wasn't to get an E2, but get an education that would get you a degree, and then get the E2. That's what I did, but I went to China because it was cheaper. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need a degree from one of the seven countries in order to get a E2? Assuming he wants to teach English, getting a degree in Korea isn't going to help him, as he won't qualify for the visa. Seriously, am I missing something here? |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
Marry a Korean and then maybe you can get an F visa to allow you to do privates. However, even if this was easy and happened, I don't know if this is the best thing for him.
If he has the money, he could go to school in Korea, kill two jiggaes with one pepper (ok I made that up ). Then, he could work.
Go out into the woods and live in the forest. Pack extra kimchi if you accept this challenge.
Personally, I would go the education route, either in Korea or back home. Then you don't have to worry about these issues. |
I'm pretty sure that going to school in Korea isn't an option if you want to be on an E2. I heard about one guy who got his undergrad here, taught for years and then got the boot with the new visa regulations in '08. |
And I am pretty sure that if you want to be on an E2, that you need more than 2 years at college. The idea wasn't to get an E2, but get an education that would get you a degree, and then get the E2. That's what I did, but I went to China because it was cheaper. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need a degree from one of the seven countries in order to get a E2? Assuming he wants to teach English, getting a degree in Korea isn't going to help him, as he won't qualify for the visa. Seriously, am I missing something here? |
It's called studying abroad. You apply credit earned abroad through your college/university in your home country. I did this in England and China. I just couldn't apply what I studied in England to my specific major, and I had so many electives it didn't matter. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| It's called studying abroad. You apply credit earned abroad through your college/university in your home country. I did this in England and China. I just couldn't apply what I studied in England to my specific major, and I had so many electives it didn't matter. |
This could work, but it would be highly dependent on what your credit situation was from your first two years, i.e. if you had enough credits to put towards your actual degree. Most American and Canadian schools would not allow you to do an entire two years worth of credits at a different institution. What you're suggesting isn't impossible, but it is highly dependent on circumstances. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| If he wants to stay in Korea longerterm then he has one viable option: Go back home, finish his degree and then he can qualify for the E2 visa. |
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broken76
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear about the case but public schools seems to be drying up lately.
The only options are mentioned.
1. Marry a Korean and get an F type Visa.
2. Return home (or another English speaking country) and get a 4 Bachelors Degree. Getting one here won't work as the degree needs to be issued from an English language school. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Getting one here won't work as the degree needs to be issued from an English language school. |
The suggestion was to study abroad. Have you guys never heard of this? I am surprised more of you seem to think all credits have to be earned in your home country.
Did you also know you can take online courses?
http://ip.wsu.edu/education_abroad/about-us/index.html
"My interest in international education began when I studied in Germany as an undergraduate student.
Later I worked in Japan for several years teaching English before earning a Masters degree in Asian Studies from the University of Hawaii." |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Getting one here won't work as the degree needs to be issued from an English language school. |
The suggestion was to study abroad. Have you guys never heard of this? I am surprised more of you seem to think all credits have to be earned in your home country.
Did you also know you can take online courses?
http://ip.wsu.edu/education_abroad/about-us/index.html
"My interest in international education began when I studied in Germany as an undergraduate student.
Later I worked in Japan for several years teaching English before earning a Masters degree in Asian Studies from the University of Hawaii." |
Of course we've heard of it, but that doesn't mean that it's a viable option in this case. Online education doesn't allow for the OP to live and work in Korea legally, while few (if any) universities are going to allow you to get two years worth of credits from a different institution, particularly one with a different language of instruction. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Stop me if I'm wrong but doesn't the MOE/POE require a BA for a teacher to be registered to be teaching at a registered academy? Although, it will be easier to stay here and find companies that will hire him for something else, it is not a free pass for a truly legitimate English teaching job. Also people are right you cannot be registered as a NET unless you have atleast a degree from one of the E2 countries.
Isn't there a stated initial limit with how long you can say with TALK anyway? Time to save money and fast track his BA or risk an uncertain future. |
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