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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: UK Motorcycle Licence and IDP Reply with quote

Can you get an IDP with only a motorcycle and not car licence??

If so dose it matter what category (e.g. in the UK you have A1, A2 and A)

I am hoping so, I want to get on motorbike when I finally arrive in Korea Very Happy
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joesp



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went with my brother who has an E-2 and they don't give the IDP to anyone with an ARC card (your "Alien Registration Card", which you get if you're anything but on a tourist visa). Actually, they said that you have to create the IDP in your own country. Thus, he was forced to get the Korean driver's license (after going to the US embassy and getting his American driver's license notarized)_. Therefore, as you are still in the UK, ask your question there first as it sounds like you will get the IDP there before you leave.

As for your other question, nobody (?) is successful at transfers the motorcycyle permit along with the transfer of their car license .... as you will gather for yourself as you peruse the motorcycle thread (the thread is a sticky) here @ Dave's.

You are advised to post on that thread about your problem, i.e. transferring motorcycle permit only. I can't answer that question.

BTW, there is numerous talk in that thread about (a) going through a motorcycle hakwon or (b) trying to pass the test cold. Usually the motorcycle permit doesn't transfer, so everybody has to do either (a) or (b) to get the Korean one. It is quite a pain.
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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joesp wrote:
I went with my brother who has an E-2 and they don't give the IDP to anyone with an ARC card (your "Alien Registration Card", which you get if you're anything but on a tourist visa). Actually, they said that you have to create the IDP in your own country. Thus, he was forced to get the Korean driver's license (after going to the US embassy and getting his American driver's license notarized)_. Therefore, as you are still in the UK, ask your question there first as it sounds like you will get the IDP there before you leave.

As for your other question, nobody (?) is successful at transfers the motorcycyle permit along with the transfer of their car license .... as you will gather for yourself as you peruse the motorcycle thread (the thread is a sticky) here @ Dave's.

You are advised to post on that thread about your problem, i.e. transferring motorcycle permit only. I can't answer that question.

BTW, there is numerous talk in that thread about (a) going through a motorcycle hakwon or (b) trying to pass the test cold. Usually the motorcycle permit doesn't transfer, so everybody has to do either (a) or (b) to get the Korean one. It is quite a pain.


Yeah, I mean that thread is 167 pages long I tried my best to find some relevant info there....
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: UK Motorcycle Licence and IDP Reply with quote

GreatUnderachiever wrote:
Can you get an IDP with only a motorcycle and not car licence??

If so dose it matter what category (e.g. in the UK you have A1, A2 and A)

I am hoping so, I want to get on motorbike when I finally arrive in Korea Very Happy


An IDP is just a booklet with the translation of your UK license and is issued in the UK. It has the same classes and restrictions as your UK license.

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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: UK Motorcycle Licence and IDP Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
GreatUnderachiever wrote:
Can you get an IDP with only a motorcycle and not car licence??

If so dose it matter what category (e.g. in the UK you have A1, A2 and A)

I am hoping so, I want to get on motorbike when I finally arrive in Korea Very Happy


An IDP is just a booklet with the translation of your UK license and is issued in the UK. It has the same classes and restrictions as your UK license.

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Thank you. I only want to ride small bike, at first. So would having license A1 translated by IDP be enough to ride a bike up to 125cc legally in Korea?

Or would I still need to go through hassle of Korean license?
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are in Korea for longer than 90 days, you CANNOT use an IDP. If you are on a visa that is longer than 90 days, you are required to get a license. You can use the IDP for the first 90, but beyond that, you have to get a license.
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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
If you are in Korea for longer than 90 days, you CANNOT use an IDP. If you are on a visa that is longer than 90 days, you are required to get a license. You can use the IDP for the first 90, but beyond that, you have to get a license.


That's not good. Sorry to bang on about this issue however there seems to be a LOT of conflicting information when it comes to riding in Korea.

I will have full motorcycle licence, but not car when I come to Korea. From the sound of it though it seems like i'm still gonna have to go through the whole Korean theory and practical test.

From what i've seen on YouTube, the Korean practical test is a nightmare. 12+ hours of riding round this tiny circuit moving through a couple of cones.
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GreatUnderachiever wrote:
nathanrutledge wrote:
If you are in Korea for longer than 90 days, you CANNOT use an IDP. If you are on a visa that is longer than 90 days, you are required to get a license. You can use the IDP for the first 90, but beyond that, you have to get a license.


That's not good. Sorry to bang on about this issue however there seems to be a LOT of conflicting information when it comes to riding in Korea.

I will have full motorcycle licence, but not car when I come to Korea. From the sound of it though it seems like i'm still gonna have to go through the whole Korean theory and practical test.

From what i've seen on YouTube, the Korean practical test is a nightmare. 12+ hours of riding round this tiny circuit moving through a couple of cones.


If you have a motorcycle endorsement, it WILL NOT transfer over when you get a Korean license. I have an American license that has a heavy motorcycle endorsement (I can ride any motorcycle, any size) as well as a heavy truck endorsement (not 18 wheeler, but dump truck and such).

To get the motorcycle endorsement in Korea is easy.

First, get a Korean drivers license. Either trade your foreign one in, or earn one.

Second, pay the fees and turn in the photos.

Third, take the test. The test is simple. Yes, there are people who will tell you they took it numerous times and failed it, and in fact, when I took my test, two guys in front of me failed it right out of the gate. But if you know how to ride and how to handle a bike, it's easy.

The thing that makes it difficult is you're driving a bike that isn't yours. You don't get a chance to practice on it. If you make a single mistake, you fail.

The bike I tested on was a Mirage 250 - a big frame, small motor bike. Mechanically it was fine - the throttle had a little more play than I was used to, but overall it was fine.

To start, you drive straight, take a sharp left turn, then a sharp right turn. After this you turn left and do an S turn. After the S turn, you drive straight down a line that is about 30 cm wide. At the end, you turn right then weave through the cones.

If you put your foot down, you fail. If you drive over the lines, you fail. If you hit a cone, you fail. They will show you a video at the start - it's all in Korean, but as long as you can see it, you'll understand it.

Don't bother with a hagwon. If you don't know how to drive a motorcycle, Korea probably isn't the place to learn... If you really feel like learning though, get a bike and go to an open parking lot. Get the specs of the course, draw it out in chalk and practice. The guys I saw fail failed because they couldn't control the bike, they put their foot down, they went over the line. When I took my state test in the US, the course was different, but the skills were the same. When I did the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course, the test was very similar.

Any other questions, or something specific about my experience getting my endorsement (which I did last week), PM me.
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post

AND edit

Reading your post again - you don't have a car license?

Getting the car license - I know a bit about it.

Last year I EARNED mine. Again, it was all about paying fees and giving photos.

I had to sit through a video which was subtitled.
Take a test, on a computer, in English which is surprisingly good. A few awkward questions, but I passed with 78% (75% is minimum to pass).

Had to do a course test - use the controls, turn the car on, drive a bit, stop and shut down on the buzzer, start again, turn and stop.

Then the road test. Drive out, circle around, come back. The instructor/test guy was really wild - told me to cut off a bus and speed through an intersection, but I still got a 100% on the test.

After that, I had my license.

NOW, that being said, I'VE HEARD RUMORS that the law has been changed and now you have to have some hours driving with someone, something like 6 or 8 hours of practice, before you can get your license. I can not confirm this, but that is the rumor.

If that's the case, I don't know anything about that.
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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
Double post

AND edit

Reading your post again - you don't have a car license?

Getting the car license - I know a bit about it.

Last year I EARNED mine. Again, it was all about paying fees and giving photos.

I had to sit through a video which was subtitled.
Take a test, on a computer, in English which is surprisingly good. A few awkward questions, but I passed with 78% (75% is minimum to pass).

Had to do a course test - use the controls, turn the car on, drive a bit, stop and shut down on the buzzer, start again, turn and stop.

Then the road test. Drive out, circle around, come back. The instructor/test guy was really wild - told me to cut off a bus and speed through an intersection, but I still got a 100% on the test.

After that, I had my license.

NOW, that being said, I'VE HEARD RUMORS that the law has been changed and now you have to have some hours driving with someone, something like 6 or 8 hours of practice, before you can get your license. I can not confirm this, but that is the rumor.

If that's the case, I don't know anything about that.


Full motorcycle license, but no car licence (and no desire to ever drive a car either). (from the UK, if that makes any difference)
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that you can get a motorcycle only license, but I don't know the specifics on that. I bet that you won't find anyone on here that knows the specifics on that either. They are generally reserved for kids who get a job as a delivery driver - you can have a motorcycle license at 16, but a car has to wait until 18.

Anyway, best option - call the DLA and ask about it.
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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
I know that you can get a motorcycle only license, but I don't know the specifics on that. I bet that you won't find anyone on here that knows the specifics on that either. They are generally reserved for kids who get a job as a delivery driver - you can have a motorcycle license at 16, but a car has to wait until 18.

Anyway, best option - call the DLA and ask about it.


Ok thanks.
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GreatUnderachiever



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait...this might be a lot easier after all....

http://waygook.org/index.php/topic,2592.msg95490.html#msg95490

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You many exchange your UK license for a Korean one. If you do this you will have your UK license returned to you when you leave Korea.

Also, as the other poster as said, you can use an international drivers license.

UK and Korea have an agreement whereby the licenses of both countries are exchangeable, without the need for further tests.

Having driven on the Seoul roads I have experienced other drivers cutting in on me, in a similar fashion to the manner in which I am routinely shoved out the way by people on the subway, street and shops.

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Very Happy
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