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New EPIK self evaluation
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swinewho



Joined: 17 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: New EPIK self evaluation Reply with quote

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Enter the average number of standard servings of alcohol consumed weekly.
→Servings of Alcohol: If you tend to drink a serving of alcohol daily (e.g., a glass of wine with dinner), please note this. For example, an appropriate answer would be, �1 glass of wine each night =7~10 servings a week.�

Enter the average number of cigarettes consumed daily.

Indicate your gender in the box provided with an �M� or �F�. Put your height and weight in cm and kg. For reference, 2.20 lbs = 1 kilogram and 2.54 cm = 1 inch.


I wonder if they're going to start discriminating against over weight/obese people?

If they are that's surely going to affect the US intake this fall! Laughing
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Americans will be desensitized enough to lie through their capped teeth. They'll be coming after the Presidential election + Senate + Congress + Guvnor elections afterall.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: New EPIK self evaluation Reply with quote

swinewho wrote:
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Enter the average number of standard servings of alcohol consumed weekly.
→Servings of Alcohol: If you tend to drink a serving of alcohol daily (e.g., a glass of wine with dinner), please note this. For example, an appropriate answer would be, �1 glass of wine each night =7~10 servings a week.�

Enter the average number of cigarettes consumed daily.

Indicate your gender in the box provided with an �M� or �F�. Put your height and weight in cm and kg. For reference, 2.20 lbs = 1 kilogram and 2.54 cm = 1 inch.


I wonder if they're going to start discriminating against over weight/obese people?

If they are that's surely going to affect the US intake this fall! Laughing


Wow. Glad I didn't get into EPIK.
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yfb



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many people will answer truthfully, I wonder Laughing
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: New EPIK self evaluation Reply with quote

isitts wrote:
swinewho wrote:
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Enter the average number of standard servings of alcohol consumed weekly.
→Servings of Alcohol: If you tend to drink a serving of alcohol daily (e.g., a glass of wine with dinner), please note this. For example, an appropriate answer would be, �1 glass of wine each night =7~10 servings a week.�

Enter the average number of cigarettes consumed daily.

Indicate your gender in the box provided with an �M� or �F�. Put your height and weight in cm and kg. For reference, 2.20 lbs = 1 kilogram and 2.54 cm = 1 inch.


I wonder if they're going to start discriminating against over weight/obese people?

If they are that's surely going to affect the US intake this fall! Laughing


Wow. Glad I didn't get into EPIK.


This survey is sooo rude. I am glad that I never worked for EPIK too.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope everyone lies. Bunch of a***oles. What bothers me more is they think it is acceptable to ask such questions. Like the butcher shop.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either this bit from the posting
Quote:
Apr 01, 2012

is on point or the OP needs to provide a link.
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Ibsen



Joined: 09 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really see the problem with it... The weight and height thing really shouldn't matter, but this is Korea we're talking about... They ask for your pictures beforehand anyway, this just gives them a more accurate assessment.

As for the drinking, you can easily lie as long as you're not a straight up alcoholic and can hide it. And for the smoking, it is an understandable concern since I can imagine some parents will look unfavorably on teachers who smoke which could be bad for their business.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ibsen wrote:
I don't really see the problem with it... The weight and height thing really shouldn't matter, but this is Korea we're talking about... They ask for your pictures beforehand anyway, this just gives them a more accurate assessment.

As for the drinking, you can easily lie as long as you're not a straight up alcoholic and can hide it. And for the smoking, it is an understandable concern since I can imagine some parents will look unfavorably on teachers who smoke which could be bad for their business.


Bad for their business? This is EPIK we are discussing which is a PUBLIC school organization...not quite sure how business plays into this.
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plchron



Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at my Moe, there was an article 2 years ago. In the article, the Moe person is quoted as saying that some people weren't renewed because they were"lazy, sloppy and fat" among other things.
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goreality



Joined: 09 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't find it offensive at all. It's a self health check, most people know there weight, height, average drinking amount and average smoking amount. If you can't answer these questions within a degree of accuracy, you don't deserve a job, you are either being untruthful or you have limited mental capacity. These questions are a good indicator of your overall health before even visiting a doctor.
Remember you are going to be on government health insurance. I wouldn't want to insure someone who is 140cm and 140kg. Easier just to ask than to wait until they come here and say I'm sorry you are too unhealthy.
They should perhaps add waist line to make BMI more accurate, but I suppose people would just complain about that too.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goreality wrote:
I don't find it offensive at all. It's a self health check, most people know there weight, height, average drinking amount and average smoking amount. If you can't answer these questions within a degree of accuracy, you don't deserve a job, you are either being untruthful or you have limited mental capacity. These questions are a good indicator of your overall health before even visiting a doctor.
Remember you are going to be on government health insurance. I wouldn't want to insure someone who is 140cm and 140kg. Easier just to ask than to wait until they come here and say I'm sorry you are too unhealthy.
They should perhaps add waist line to make BMI more accurate, but I suppose people would just complain about that too.


All I know that if these questions were asked of teachers or assistant teachers from China teaching in public schools in the states people would be right up in arms about rude ethno-centric policies.

At my office about half the women would quit if these questions were asked in the states. And the policies are racist if they do not ask the same questions of their Korean colleagues.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No_hite_pls wrote:
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At my office about half the women would quit if these questions were asked in the states. They are rude and racist if they do not ask the same questions of their Korean colleagues.



No they aren't. And here's why.

This is an EPIK questionnaire. Said Korean colleagues do NOT WORK FOR EPIK...they work for the MOE. Your salary is paid for out of the EPIK budget whereas theirs is not.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^
There used to be "black" and "white" drinking fountains (or schools).

The black fountain was usually dirtier, but you're saying we can't compare the two? They have different names.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
No_hite_pls wrote:
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At my office about half the women would quit if these questions were asked in the states. They are rude and racist if they do not ask the same questions of their Korean colleagues.



No they aren't. And here's why.

This is an EPIK questionnaire. Said Korean colleagues do NOT WORK FOR EPIK...they work for the MOE. Your salary is paid for out of the EPIK budget whereas theirs is not.


It shouldn't matter.

BTW My salary is not paid by EPIK. I have never worked for EPIK/SMOE/GEPIK and never will. I heard that they put you guys up in some college compound for orientation too. No Thanks!
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