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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:06 am Post subject: Hamas sympathizer Galloway wins Bradford election |
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In a shock result, British terrorist-supporter George Galloway has won the Bradford seat.
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Just a few years after the first Gulf war, in January 1994, he caused outrage when he was filmed telling Saddam Hussein: "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability."
The Scots politician used his appearance on Capitol Hill in 2005 as a platform to launch a scathing attack on US policy.
After his victory, he tweeted to supporters: "Long live Iraq. Long live Palestine, free, Arab, dignified. George Galloway MP."
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/03/201233191158222409.html |
Its a little worrying when such an apparently confused individual gets voted into power in the UK. Here he is getting pwned by a Dispatches interviewee in 2009.
http://holgerawakens.blogspot.com/2009/09/video-islamic-terrorist-sympathizer.html |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Hamas sympathizer Galloway wins Bradford election |
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| Junior wrote: |
In a shock result, British terrorist-supporter George Galloway has won the Bradford seat.
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Just a few years after the first Gulf war, in January 1994, he caused outrage when he was filmed telling Saddam Hussein: "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability."
The Scots politician used his appearance on Capitol Hill in 2005 as a platform to launch a scathing attack on US policy.
After his victory, he tweeted to supporters: "Long live Iraq. Long live Palestine, free, Arab, dignified. George Galloway MP."
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/03/201233191158222409.html |
Its a little worrying when such an apparently confused individual gets voted into power in the UK. Here he is getting pwned by a Dispatches interviewee in 2009.
http://holgerawakens.blogspot.com/2009/09/video-islamic-terrorist-sympathizer.html |
While it's a very nice idea that someone would be elected on a platform of building dialogue between the communities of Bradford, this guy aint it. He is a complete and utter pr*** with his own agenda, and he has won this by kissing up to the Muslim community (did you see that pathetic, sycophantic letter that he posted to all the Mosques? Ugh, creepy. Gave me cringey goose bumps) He literally makes me feel sick. |
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lichtarbeiter
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:04 am Post subject: |
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So it's an outrage when a Hamas sympathizer wins an election, but not when a Likud sympathizer wins an election?
Please explain... |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| lichtarbeiter wrote: |
So it's an outrage when a Hamas sympathizer wins an election, but not when a Likud sympathizer wins an election?
Please explain... |
George..is that you?
Likud doesn't strap bombs to kids and disabled people. |
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lichtarbeiter
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| lichtarbeiter wrote: |
So it's an outrage when a Hamas sympathizer wins an election, but not when a Likud sympathizer wins an election?
Please explain... |
George..is that you?
Likud doesn't strap bombs to kids and disabled people. |
Israel shoots kids, bombs kids, and uses kids as human shields. Where's the outrage? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Israel shoots kids, bombs kids, and uses kids as human shields. |
Prove it or *beep* off. |
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lichtarbeiter
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking of human shields...
http://jcpa.org/jl/vp441.htm
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| The appearance of Palestinian children in these riots, it will be demonstrated, is not accidental. The Palestinian Authority has intentionally mobilized Palestinian children to man the front line in its struggle against Israel, frequently using them as shields to protect Palestinian gunmen. |
And that's of course when it's not just a fake
http://freeisraelnow.wordpress.com/
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The most �powerful weapon,� a graphic �dead kid� to show how �bad� Israel is, the psychology is clear, the audience doesn�t think how this happened, when �overwhelmed� by the photo. This is exactly why Arab-Islamic �Palestine� cult invests so much in amassing such images. Tactics on getting such images vary:
1.) Simply fake photo (Like Khulood Badawi�s tweet of March 10, 2012, presenting a 2006 accidental death as a �recent� IDF fault).
2.) Altered photo (Pallywood).
3.) Getting the cameras ready (or have a pro-jihad cameraman) at the dangerous location, as soon as someone isn�t saved by humane Israel evacuating the unarmed before an anti-Terrorists operation� |
Now can we get back on topic?
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Many American politicians support terror groups as well, but no one really seems all that upset about it. Big names like Rudy Giuliani and Howard Dean support the officially designated terrorist group MEK and have accepted money from them.
http://www.salon.com/2012/03/28/guest_op_ed_mek_and_its_material_supporters_in_washington/singleton/
This British guy sounds terrible, but it sounds like at least he will be one more vote against the UK joining any more American wars. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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You're quoting a one-sided article, based on hearsay, from an organization with a proven track record of anti-Israel bias.
In reality Israel does its utmost to avoid civilian casualties.
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Colonel Richard Kemp
UN Human Rights Council
12th Special Session, 16 October 2009
Thank you, Mr. President.
I am the former commander of the British forces in Afghanistan. I served with NATO and the United Nations; commanded troops in Northern Ireland, Bosnia and Macedonia; and participated in the Gulf War. I spent considerable time in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, and worked on international terrorism for the UK Government�s Joint Intelligence Committee.
Mr. President, based on my knowledge and experience, I can say this: During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli Defence Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.
Israel did so while facing an enemy that deliberately positioned its military capability behind the human shield of the civilian population.
Hamas, like Hizballah, are expert at driving the media agenda. Both will always have people ready to give interviews condemning Israeli forces for war crimes. They are adept at staging and distorting incidents.
The IDF faces a challenge that we British do not have to face to the same extent. It is the automatic, Pavlovian presumption by many in the international media, and international human rights groups, that the IDF are in the wrong, that they are abusing human rights.
The truth is that the IDF took extraordinary measures to give Gaza civilians notice of targeted areas, dropping over 2 million leaflets, and making over 100,000 phone calls. Many missions that could have taken out Hamas military capability were aborted to prevent civilian casualties. During the conflict, the IDF allowed huge amounts of humanitarian aid into Gaza. To deliver aid virtually into your enemy's hands is, to the military tactician, normally quite unthinkable. But the IDF took on those risks.
Despite all of this, of course innocent civilians were killed. War is chaos and full of mistakes. There have been mistakes by the British, American and other forces in Afghanistan and in Iraq, many of which can be put down to human error. But mistakes are not war crimes.
More than anything, the civilian casualties were a consequence of Hamas� way of fighting. Hamas deliberately tried to sacrifice their own civilians.
Mr. President, Israel had no choice apart from defending its people, to stop Hamas from attacking them with rockets.
And I say this again: the IDF did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.
Thank you, Mr. President.
http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1313923&ct=7536409 |
But if you count unintentional civilian deaths (that ocurred despite all fervent attempts to avoid them) as intentional, then by your logic we can say that Canada kills kids.
Yep. A number of kids are killed in car accidents in Canada every year, by Canadians running them over.
Thus, Canada Kills kids.
Canada kills kids! That is an undeniable fact. Better put international sanctions on them. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| Okay then, tough guy. It's surprising that a big boy like you can't do a simple Google search that would yield hundreds of relevant articles, but I guess I can start you off with a few links (though even I know you have a reputation on this board for completely ignoring evidence). |
You're into Pallywood I see..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgQLGYb9Xfo
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on Sep 1, 2006
Palestinians fake a massacre: watch how this"dead" Palestinian on his way to his "funeral" wakes up! |
lol.  |
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lichtarbeiter
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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1) Your bringing my sources into question and then countering with sources from the Daily Mail, an underground anti-Islamification website, and the words of a British military commander is nothing short of laughable.
2) Israeli atrocities against children have been well-documented by human rights organizations (in Israel and abroad), by UN-commissioned reports, and even by Israeli newspapers. Your denial of these atrocities puts you in the same category of dementia as Holocaust deniers.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/gaza-teens-brave-idf-fire-to-collect-salvaged-building-materials-1.318121
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/gideon-levy-man-responsible-for-israel-s-cruelest-wars-only-attracts-praise-1.280095
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/idf-ceased-long-ago-being-most-moral-army-in-the-world-1.272619
http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-calls-for-war-crimes-probe-into-idf-shelling-of-civilian-occupied-building-in-gaza-1.267832
3) If Canadian drivers commenced their journeys knowing that it was virtually guaranteed that children would be killed, and if Canadian drivers targetted children with their cars, then your analogy might have the slightest shred of validity. As it stands it just comes across as a lame attempt at trolling.
4) Your reference to Pallywood is pointless considering I never presented any images/videos whose authenticity is questioned. Perhaps you think Palestinians filmmakers are able to obtain Israeli military equipment, weapons, and vehicles to display on their 'set.' 
5) Besides the atrocities mentioned, Israel continues to carry out an occupation and blockade that has been ruled illegal by the highest standing court in international law, and has been repeatedly diplomatically opposed by every country outside of Israel and the United States (and formerly Apartheid South Africa). It is one of the key forces driving Middle Eastern hate against the West, and all we do is pretend it's not happening and act like they hate us because of our freedoms. In some cases, ignorance may be bliss, but it sure as hell wasn't bliss for people in the World Trade Centers, in the London Underground, or in the Jewish school in Toulouse. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Sure, I'll agree that rarely, Israeli forces have accidentally killed Palestinian kids. (Often because they are deliberately used as human shields by the Palestinians themselves).
But that is a far cry from your wild claims that Israel exists to kill Palestinian children, that this is the driving force and policy within Israel. Do you realize how silly you sound?.
OTOH, Hamas has a deliberate policy of firing into civilian areas of Israel. Killing Israeli kids is just what they try to do constantly.
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| Israel continues to carry out an occupation and blockade that has been ruled illegal by the highest standing court in international law |
Ah..the UN? Pshaww.
The same UN that does not care about tens of thousands of deaths in Syria yet passes multiple resolutions against Israel for minor infractions?
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| It is one of the key forces driving Middle Eastern hate against the West |
You are naive. Islam has been at war with non-muslims since the 6th century, gradually swallowing chunks of territory and driving out infidels everywhere it has gone. Long, long before Israel was re-established. Giving them another bite-size piece of the planet will not placate them, more likely it will encourage them to even greater efforts.
Millions of muslims live in the west, and in Israel, (which is presumably fine and dandy with you), but yet by your judgement westerners and Jews are are not allowed to live in the middle east?
What you are doing is victimizing one particular ethnicity. Sorry.. but Jews have a right to live, in their historic and documented homeland Israel, and to defend themselves.
If you genuinely care about the deaths of innocent people, go and rant on the Syria thread. They've been deliberately bombing and killing women and children there for the past year.. in case you hadn't noticed. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| 1) 5) Besides the atrocities mentioned, Israel continues to carry out an occupation and blockade that has been ruled illegal by the highest standing court in international law, and has been repeatedly diplomatically opposed by every country outside of Israel and the United States (and formerly Apartheid South Africa). . |
Actually that was a ADVISORY OPINION and not legally binding. And when taken to the UN it died a quiet death due to lack of support. You ARE talking about the ICJ yes? |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| In some cases, ignorance may be bliss, but it sure as hell wasn't bliss for people in the World Trade Centers, in the London Underground, or in the Jewish school in Toulouse |
And how is any of this relevant to a bi-election in Bradford? It wouldn't be normally, except for the fact that we have allowed into our country millions of people who care more for the "Umma" than they do the state of their adopted country. |
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