View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: Warning Voice Phishing: Targeting Foreigners |
|
|
Two days ago I was called on the phone by a computer voice message stating that it was the Korean Immigration Services. It explained in a round about way that my passport number was being illegally used and that immigration needed my verification to solve this problem. Then the system prompted me to stay online until I'm connected with an officer.
The officer was a person, not a machine. He spoke with a Chinese-Korean accent that was so thick that it was initially too difficult for me to make out what exactly he was saying. I thought this odd, but I also know that immigration does hire non-nationals to help them. So, I just stayed on the line. I asked him what the problem was and he repeated verbatim that my passport information was being illegally used and that I should tell him if it is true or not. He prompted me to say my name to check the system. My name is 25 or so characters long, so I asked if he could just use my alien registration number. He didn't want this and said he didn't need me to spell out my name. He told me that if I just say my full name, then the system will be able to look it up. I did, but again I was feeling a bit odd. (I was thinking that maybe Immigration is using Shiri)
He then read off a litany of undecipherable garble with an accent so harsh that it was difficult to make out the nouns and verbs. Then said would you like to report this as an illegal usage of passport and prompted me to say "yes." So I did. Then he hung up after saying that an officer would call me later with more information.
Ten or so minutes later, a woman called me. She also had an accent, but I could make out what she was saying much better. She explained that someone was trying to use my passport information for banking and other purposes and that she was with the police office and needed to ask me more information. She asked what bank I use. I thought this a bit strange, but I said Woori Bank. Then she went on to prompt for more information. And, I felt very odd and immediately asked her, why she needed to know more about my account if someone is trying to use my passport to open up another account. She immediately hung up.
I called the Immigration Office and they informed me that it was most likely voice phishing. The number that these people were calling me with started with +00....and immigration said that often these numbers are untraceable and part of such scheme operations. They also told me to call 118 to report such scams.
Just trying to give everyone the heads up. I feel really horrible that they got my alien registration number and my name. But I don't think there's much they can do with that information.
The bigger question for me is how this whole operation happened. How did they even know that I'm a foreigner and get my phone number? Don't want to start another Plame Affair, but I do wonder if the Korean Immigration Security has been breached. (Kinda doubt this too, being that they didn't seem to have my alien registration number) Any other ideas?
If you think this isn't a big deal click the Korean-English translated report link below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9uqYW5XRTQ
If you do fall victim to such a scam in Korea, you can pretty much rule out getting help. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
HANGRY
Joined: 04 Feb 2011
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for letting us know. It's good that you had a good head on your shoulders and didn't give any more information than you did. Hopefully, no harm will come of it. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Location: Daegu
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Wow! How scary! Thanks for the heads-up and good luck!
As for how they got your number, they probably just call random numbers or have a machine that calls and calls waiting for a "hello." Or at least, I hope so? O.O |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
soomin wrote: |
Wow! How scary! Thanks for the heads-up and good luck!
As for how they got your number, they probably just call random numbers or have a machine that calls and calls waiting for a "hello." Or at least, I hope so? O.O |
That's the thing. I speak Korean. I answered in Korean as I usually do. And this machine knew that I'm not Korean, which makes me suspect that the people behind the machine had info on me or perhaps other foreigners.
The events that I wrote above happened using the Korean language.
I wonder where this info was leaked or sold to them. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Something similar happened to me. Someone called me claiming to be from the police, telling me that I was a victim of identity theft and I would need to "report" it on their web site. He directed me to a pretty slick looking "police" web site, and told me what link to click on to report the fraud, which included a space for my Alien Registration number and banking information. I told him I'd get right on it and hung up.
When I called the police myself to confirm what was going on (FYI - they used a 3-way call with the KNTO to interpret), they told me it was definitely phishing and that the police would never ask for that information. When I tried to report the phishing incident to them, offering the phone number of the scammers and the web address they were referring me to, the cops said there was no crime to report since I didn't actually give them any information.  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Son Deureo! wrote: |
When I tried to report the phishing incident to them, offering the phone number of the scammers and the web address they were referring me to, the cops said there was no crime to report since I didn't actually give them any information.  |
Impersonating an officer of the law isn't illegal in South Korea? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If immi ever calls, hang up. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I would just schedule an appointment to go in and then forget about it.
Another thing you could do is if they are immigration, they would know where you worked and the employer's name. If they did have that, then ask them what the employer's phone number is and to call them. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
pegasus64128

Joined: 20 Aug 2011
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Warning Voice Phishing: Targeting Foreigners |
|
|
rchristo10 wrote: |
If you think this isn't a big deal click the Korean-English translated report link below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9uqYW5XRTQ
If you do fall victim to such a scam in Korea, you can pretty much rule out getting help. |
Any "bank" that enables a scammer to get a loan fraudulently should be in a position to at least refund your losses. And never ever give anyone your PIN number. A Korean bank account clerk asked me to write out my PIN in plain text on paper a few years back -crazy! Never agree to that. It's healthy to diversify your wealth in other forms - gold, silver, land etc. I hope people spend less online using their credit cards in the future and start buying more from Mom and Pop stores in their locality. I think I'll eat fresh fish at the seafood market today! 
Last edited by pegasus64128 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
YTMND wrote: |
I would just schedule an appointment to go in and then forget about it.
Another thing you could do is if they are immigration, they would know where you worked and the employer's name. If they did have that, then ask them what the employer's phone number is and to call them. |
Have no clue what the second recommendation means. If someone were employed here, do you think that it would be best to have his or her boss working on something as personal as possible ID/ passport theft or perhaps even something related to saids bank accounts?
I don't know how they do it in the employment (presumably English-teaching) world in Korea (since I don't work here), but I would certainly want to deal with any problems related to my passport, bank account, or any other personal items without my boss or supervisors, who would likely care very little or have very little incentive to care very much. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
|
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
if I don't know you, I just hang up!
I dont care who you tell me you are.
if its really that urgent they will ring back a few more times.
they never do |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
|
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: hey |
|
|
As far as them knowing you are a foreigner would be pretty easy since your phone is registered with your name. That's probably where they got it from, just like in the states when telemarketers call you. They didn't hack any government website, just probably bought a list of names with phone numbers the way telemarketers do. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
|
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
Immi never discuss things like that over the phone, they'll call you in for a visit. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
|
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Do people not get it yet? Don't give ANY information to ANYONE calling randomly. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
|
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
bobbybigfoot wrote: |
Do people not get it yet? Don't give ANY information to ANYONE calling randomly. |
Though it sounds easy, most don't live in a perpetual state of paranoia when they hear their phone ring or think as clearly as 007 when when shocked by info given to us them on the phone.
The ability to empathize begets the ability to understand, and finally transcends to the ability to help.
But, all-in-all, you're right.  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|