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Surgery that stops dogs from barking, wow
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jaj



Joined: 01 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Surgery that stops dogs from barking, wow Reply with quote

Apparently this is common here. Why bother have a dog if you're going to stop it from acting like one? Korean doctors are extremely "hands-on" in a human centipede kind of way...

watch your backs y'all
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you hear this? This is the first time I've heard of it being "common." I personally haven't heard of it at all but I guess there are some people out there who do this.
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CrikeyKorea



Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Location: Heogi, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently? According to whom?
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jaj



Joined: 01 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was doing a classroom exercise about a neighbor with a noisy dog and asked my students how they would handle the problem. My students all suggested the neighbor give their dog surgery to stop them from barking!
They insisted it was common. Sounds consistent with other medical practices here.

At any rate, found the below blog post for anyone who thinks I made this up!

http://savethebark.wordpress.com/about/
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, that's messed up. A dog without the ability to vocalize would hardly be a dog.
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, it's true alright.

A couple of weeks ago after locking up my bicycle near a mountain I intended to hike, I heard a strange persistent rasping sound coming from the house behind me.

Lo and behold was the subject of myth, a dog whose vocal chords had magically been nixed!

Have to admit it was a lot more pleasant for me that way, 'tho yeah in some sense it just wasn't a dog no more.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's cruel for the dog. Also declawing cats is very cruel too.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is pretty common here. One of my students was telling me how cruel he thought his parents were for having it done to his dog. I had been telling them how we were training our dog to stop barking with a command. Still, he's a dog. He's just doing his job to tell us that someone's outside the apartment. I want those first few barks.

The local pet shop has a bunch of dogs. Half of them have had the vocal chord surgery. Hearing one of those dogs "bark" is one of the saddest things I could imagine.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have many dogs surrendered to the shelter in Daegu that have had this kind of surgery.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Wow"?
Where've you been? This has been around for years and is done in the US as well. Heck that's probably where Korean vets got the idea from.

Wonder if the dogs with surgery actually try barking more often, since the raspy choking sound isn't exactly the sound they are going for.

"I'm trying to sound mean and aggressive, but all that comes out is this soft throaty sound. Bummer ... might as well keep trying until it comes out right!"
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

warmachinenkorea wrote:
We have many dogs surrendered to the shelter in Daegu that have had this kind of surgery.

Probably because the type of owner that gets this surgery done isn't likely to be much of an animal lover. They got a dog, but then realized it was more than a cute fashionable show piece.

But with all the yippy toy dogs here, and the paper thin apartment walls, maybe it's not the worst thing that could happen. I'm against the surgery in principle but had a neighbor here with a screeching rat of a dog that had me thinking otherwise. Surgery or duct tape, either one would have been fine.
(Oh, the thoughts that enter your head at 3am as the yips and yelps wake you out of a good sleep. Even worse was when the owners would come home drunk and have sex, while screaming at the dog to shut up while they did it. The girl sounded more like a dog than the dog did, strangely enough I thought she was a puppy when I first heard her.)
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DE-barking dogs has been around for a long time.

My mum breeds dogs that's how I know about it. It's not just a Korean thing, it's been going on in western countries for 20 years or more. It's usually done to dogs who bark incessantly and is more common than you would think.

Only rarely does it completely remove a dogs ability to bark. It usually just makes a dog bark quieter or on some occasions raspy. If you ever come across a dog that sounds quieter than you would expect it to be, it's probably been de-barked.
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drydell



Joined: 01 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In thirty something years I never came across this once living in "the west" . A few years in Korea and have seen it several times. I say it's done way more here.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see plenty of them on a regular basis (just going to the local vet's or pet shop, as well as on daily walks) that can't even make more than a hoarse whisper, even though they are "barking." It's terrible.
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giraffe



Joined: 07 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Debarking is horrible =(...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6fgssaxJBQ Doesnt sound like a dog anymore. and yes it happens in the western world tooo. Alot more than you think.
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