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mackfifti
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: List of Hagwons |
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Anyone have a list of Hagwons in Seoul. How about a link?
Also, how do I acquire a yellow pages in Seoul that would list all the English Academies in the city? |
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YTMND
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You want a list before or after they change names?  |
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Dog Soldier
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Surely that list of hagwons would run into the thousands? |
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mackfifti
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
| You want a list before or after they change names? |
The reason why, is most businesses will want to change names after developing a certain level of ill repute. |
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mackfifti
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Dog Soldier wrote: |
| Surely that list of hagwons would run into the thousands? |
Yellow pages then? |
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YTMND
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| You want a list before or after they change names? |
The reason why, is most businesses will want to change names after developing a certain level of ill repute. |
Yea, so? What would the purpose then be? You have fingerprints or DNA on a bad hagwon? |
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mackfifti
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| YTMND wrote: |
| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| You want a list before or after they change names? |
The reason why, is most businesses will want to change names after developing a certain level of ill repute. |
Yea, so? What would the purpose then be? You have fingerprints or DNA on a bad hagwon? |
Bad hagwons are only considered bad because Westerners are ignorant to the way Koreans do business and handle contracts, therefore try to place blame on the other side, when really, it was you who didn't understand the context of what was in question. |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| You want a list before or after they change names? |
The reason why, is most businesses will want to change names after developing a certain level of ill repute. |
Yea, so? What would the purpose then be? You have fingerprints or DNA on a bad hagwon? |
Bad hagwons are only considered bad because Westerners are ignorant to the way Koreans do business and handle contracts, therefore try to place blame on the other side, when really, it was you who didn't understand the context of what was in question. |
I hope you don't seriously believe that statement. Have you ever worked at a hagwon? You sound like a bad Korean hagwon owner who is doing bad business, and trying to justify it. Come off it, man.
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Dog Soldier
Joined: 29 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| You want a list before or after they change names? |
The reason why, is most businesses will want to change names after developing a certain level of ill repute. |
Yea, so? What would the purpose then be? You have fingerprints or DNA on a bad hagwon? |
Bad hagwons are only considered bad because Westerners are ignorant to the way Koreans do business and handle contracts, therefore try to place blame on the other side, when really, it was you who didn't understand the context of what was in question. |
Right...so my employer withholding 7 million from me and trying to dodge out on everything is me not understanding how Koreans do business?
Did I just bite? I did, didn't I |
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mike in brasil
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Kim's Fantasy Land for Well Baheved Children - 010-555-1234
Parks Castigation Zone for FTs who will get Shafted - 010- 555 12345
Lee's Hogwan for the OP who will give him everything OP wants- 010 555 123456 |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| ...so my employer withholding 7 million from me and trying to dodge out on everything is me not understanding how Koreans do business? |
I briefly knew a rich businessman who had been here about ten years, and he referred to Koreans as the (think of the second word that comes to your mind when you think about WW2) "_______ of Asia". I'm simply relaying something that was told to me, don't assume anything more. Hagwons are rackets, I certainly hope other industries don't operate in similar ways, though I've been told it's generally much of the same. And I'm not saying that other countries operate differently. |
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Troglodyte
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Right...so my employer withholding 7 million from me and trying to dodge out on everything is me not understanding how Koreans do business?
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No. That pretty much sums up the hogwon industry. You're understanding is impeccable.
You're just a bad employee because you didn't bend over and take it.
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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The OP posted a similar thread asking for the same information in which he went into extensive detail admitting that he didn't have a degree and was coming here to teach illegally.
In other words...don't feed the troll. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| And I'm not saying that other countries operate differently. |
I was doing privates in Japan, and a school made a deal for me to give trials to new students. Instead, the school just sent their students who pretended to not sign up. It only took 3 of these before one of the students admitted they were already a student at the school.
Then the next day, I supposedly had a real "new student" who wanted to sign up. The school asked me to go with them to the bank to make sure the student would pay the costs. In Japan, at the time at least, they pay for 1 month and a sign up fee which is a ridiculous amount (like the apartment security deposits in Korea). After the school got the money, they left. I asked about the commission for signing up a new student and it ended up with them "not trusting" me for asking them. The guy came to my apartment, put the commission money in the mailbox and locked it with a combination lock. I didn't get the combination until after the school I regularly worked for saw the lock and wondered what the heck was going on.
In China, a recruiter will be your employer. They farm you out to different schools. ChinaESL has been accused of taking advantage of teachers, but to their defense I didn't experience this when I met them and interviewed for a few positions. I think it boils down to a money issue and what the teacher had expected. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| jfromtheway wrote: |
| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| mackfifti wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
| You want a list before or after they change names? |
The reason why, is most businesses will want to change names after developing a certain level of ill repute. |
Yea, so? What would the purpose then be? You have fingerprints or DNA on a bad hagwon? |
Bad hagwons are only considered bad because Westerners are ignorant to the way Koreans do business and handle contracts, therefore try to place blame on the other side, when really, it was you who didn't understand the context of what was in question. |
I hope you don't seriously believe that statement. Have you ever worked at a hagwon? You sound like a bad Korean hagwon owner who is doing bad business, and trying to justify it. Come off it, man. |
He is pretty close to the truth, some teachers simply don't even understand the implied relationship between employer and employee or what is expected off them.
Most just do their hours and don't give a cent, what they don't understand is that a native teachers is a serious investment on their part, and if the investment doesn't pay off .... because the teacher doesn't give a damn ..... they need to find a way to stay afloat. |
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