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Matt_22
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: A couple FBI CBC Questions - |
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Sorry if these have already been answered in other threads. I did some looking, but most of the discussion is about price, turnaround, and contacting congressmen. I still don't know the answers to some basic questions. Namely:
1) Who sends and receives the apostilled CBC? Should this be sent from applicant to the employer? FBI directly to immigration? I still don't know how this is supposed to work exactly.
2) Should I be requesting multiple apostilled copies? Is there any reason I should need more than one?
Any help would be much appreciated. |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
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1) You would send the hard copy of your apostilled CBC to your future employer once you agree to the job and sign the contract. So pretty much the FBI should send it back to you first, and you would forward it along.
2) It wouldn't hurt. Some people on the forums are saying their recruiters are requesting 2 apostilled CBC's now, but other knowledgeable members on this forum have stated that the recruiters are just misinformed and a copy of the original made by the MOE will suffice. So it's really up to you, wouldn't hurt to have 2, but most likely only 1 is necessary.
This is just what I have heard on these forums, so not necessarily 100% accurate. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Here's another question....
I'm on an F-6 (changed from former F-2 visa at last visit), and have been working at the same university for like 7 years. Never had to get a CBC.
I am concerned about having one in-hand should I find myself looking for a job one day. Is this something I can get and just submit to an educational office so that they can have it on-file, or do I have to have an employer lined-up ahead of time? |
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aznhybrid
Joined: 18 Jan 2012
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Here's another question....
I'm on an F-6 (changed from former F-2 visa at last visit), and have been working at the same university for like 7 years. Never had to get a CBC.
I am concerned about having one in-hand should I find myself looking for a job one day. Is this something I can get and just submit to an educational office so that they can have it on-file, or do I have to have an employer lined-up ahead of time? |
Well the CBC has to be within 6 months, so them having it on hand doesn't matter.
But what I think you could do, is order the CBC to prove that you haven't committed any crimes in your home country prior to moving to Korea. And even if it isn't in the 6 months window, as long as you haven't left Korea since the date on the CBC a local Korean background check should suffice. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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You could contact your congressman to get the CBC done quicker. While I've heard some people post successes in doing that. I contacted my congressman and have heard nothing and the CBC is taking the usuall amount of time. So................ |
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Good Will Riker
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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aznhybrid wrote: |
Well the CBC has to be within 6 months, so them having it on hand doesn't matter.
But what I think you could do, is order the CBC to prove that you haven't committed any crimes in your home country prior to moving to Korea. And even if it isn't in the 6 months window, as long as you haven't left Korea since the date on the CBC a local Korean background check should suffice. |
Folks, after reading through some of the AFEK posts in regards to the whole "F visa's new CBC + apostille requirements," I need a few questions and help answered in this regard. Thank you.
I am an F-4 visa holder from California, who has been living in Korea for a little over 3 years now and currently reside in the outskirts of Seoul with part-time English work as my main source of income for me and my wife.
Needless to say, as a part-time F-4 visa holder I have never had to go through any of the "CBC + apostille + health check" or dealt with SMOE, immigration, or any of the legalities behind this and am an in the dark complete newbie and green to this whole process without knowing what to do.
Please tell me what to do, because I need some answers as a complete, unaware newbie to this whole new requirement:
1.) If I do decide to stop being a part-timer and decide to find a full-time English work out there in the coming years, if I just have all of my required documents submitted to SMOE, immigration, etc. in advance then do I need to reorder all of these docs ALL OVER AGAIN each time I am hired at a new place of English employment here in Korea (hagwons, public schools, universities, etc.) or is having all the docs already submitted to SMOE, immigration, etc. ONCE AND IN THEIR OFFICIAL FILES sufficient enough for me to find employment from now until eternity without having to re-do this process each-and-everytime I find a new job?
2.) Plain and simple: What do I need to do step-by-step to get all this done from start to finish, and how do I ensure I do things correctly from my own end so as not to repeat this process? For example: I only obtained my F-4 visa 3-years ago and started working. That was it. I never had to do any of the CBC + apostille + transcripts + healthcheck + any of this at all, so someone has to explain to me in detail. Thanks. The villagers who I work with around here in the boondocks can't really help me out here, so you guys are my only source of help for all of this.
3.) Is there any part of this whole process which I can get done just from within Korea (i.e. criminal background check, medical check) and not bother having to contact any of the bureaucrats stateside? I've heard that some hagwon wonjangs just accept the Korean criminal background checks from the F-visa holders without having to order the CBC from stateside.
4.) Is there an official Korean government website which spells out these new rules for the F-visa holders. If not a Korean government website, any official website -- or at the very least a reputable website which clearly establishes the rules for this whole process which I can take a good look at.
The reason I ask all these questions is due to the fact that I work mainly with 100% Korean native working staff around me who obviously have no answers to any of my queries in regards to these new regs.
Thanks for the help; I really appreciate this, everyone. |
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Good Will Riker
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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aznhybrid wrote: |
Well the CBC has to be within 6 months, so them having it on hand doesn't matter.
But what I think you could do, is order the CBC to prove that you haven't committed any crimes in your home country prior to moving to Korea. And even if it isn't in the 6 months window, as long as you haven't left Korea since the date on the CBC a local Korean background check should suffice. |
Folks, after reading through some of the AFEK posts in regards to the whole "F visa's new CBC + apostille requirements," I need a few questions and help answered in this regard. Thank you.
I am an F-4 visa holder from California, who has been living in Korea for a little over 3 years now and currently reside in the outskirts of Seoul with part-time English work as my main source of income for me and my wife.
Needless to say, as a part-time F-4 visa holder I have never had to go through any of the "CBC + apostille + health check" or dealt with SMOE, immigration, or any of the legalities behind this and am an in the dark complete newbie and green to this whole process without knowing what to do.
Please tell me what to do, because I need some answers as a complete, unaware newbie to this whole new requirement:
1.) If I do decide to stop being a part-timer and decide to find a full-time English work out there in the coming years, if I just have all of my required documents submitted to SMOE, immigration, etc. in advance then do I need to reorder all of these docs ALL OVER AGAIN each time I am hired at a new place of English employment here in Korea (hagwons, public schools, universities, etc.) or is having all the docs already submitted to SMOE, immigration, etc. ONCE AND IN THEIR OFFICIAL FILES sufficient enough for me to find employment from now until eternity without having to re-do this process each-and-everytime I find a new job?
2.) Plain and simple: What do I need to do step-by-step to get all this done from start to finish, and how do I ensure I do things correctly from my own end so as not to repeat this process? For example: I only obtained my F-4 visa 3-years ago and started working. That was it. I never had to do any of the CBC + apostille + transcripts + healthcheck + any of this at all, so someone has to explain to me in detail. Thanks. The villagers who I work with around here in the boondocks can't really help me out here, so you guys are my only source of help for all of this.
3.) Is there any part of this whole process which I can get done just from within Korea (i.e. criminal background check, medical check) and not bother having to contact any of the bureaucrats stateside? I've heard that some hagwon wonjangs just accept the Korean criminal background checks from the F-visa holders without having to order the CBC from stateside.
4.) Is there an official Korean government website which spells out these new rules for the F-visa holders. If not a Korean government website, any official website -- or at the very least a reputable website which clearly establishes the rules for this whole process which I can take a good look at.
The reason I ask all these questions is due to the fact that I work mainly with 100% Korean native working staff around me who obviously have no answers to any of my queries in regards to these new regs.
Thanks for the help; I really appreciate this, everyone. |
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Good Will Riker
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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aznhybrid wrote: |
Well the CBC has to be within 6 months, so them having it on hand doesn't matter.
But what I think you could do, is order the CBC to prove that you haven't committed any crimes in your home country prior to moving to Korea. And even if it isn't in the 6 months window, as long as you haven't left Korea since the date on the CBC a local Korean background check should suffice. |
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eisamin
Joined: 07 Mar 2012
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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From the threads if you're from the U.S. or Canada you have to do the CBC there. Either fly home or have someone do it for you. There are services like www.apostillepros.com you just have to send them your fingerprints (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks) and they mail it to the FBI and once the CBC is returned to them, they have it apostille and ship it to South Korea. This is only convenient if you're not leaving south korea. Then you don't have waste money mailing documents back and forth. You can also ship them your degree or diploma for apostille as well (http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=202047&start=0).
Good Will Riker wrote: |
aznhybrid wrote: |
Well the CBC has to be within 6 months, so them having it on hand doesn't matter.
But what I think you could do, is order the CBC to prove that you haven't committed any crimes in your home country prior to moving to Korea. And even if it isn't in the 6 months window, as long as you haven't left Korea since the date on the CBC a local Korean background check should suffice. |
Folks, after reading through some of the AFEK posts in regards to the whole "F visa's new CBC + apostille requirements," I need a few questions and help answered in this regard. Thank you.
I am an F-4 visa holder from California, who has been living in Korea for a little over 3 years now and currently reside in the outskirts of Seoul with part-time English work as my main source of income for me and my wife.
Needless to say, as a part-time F-4 visa holder I have never had to go through any of the "CBC + apostille + health check" or dealt with SMOE, immigration, or any of the legalities behind this and am an in the dark complete newbie and green to this whole process without knowing what to do.
Please tell me what to do, because I need some answers as a complete, unaware newbie to this whole new requirement:
1.) If I do decide to stop being a part-timer and decide to find a full-time English work out there in the coming years, if I just have all of my required documents submitted to SMOE, immigration, etc. in advance then do I need to reorder all of these docs ALL OVER AGAIN each time I am hired at a new place of English employment here in Korea (hagwons, public schools, universities, etc.) or is having all the docs already submitted to SMOE, immigration, etc. ONCE AND IN THEIR OFFICIAL FILES sufficient enough for me to find employment from now until eternity without having to re-do this process each-and-everytime I find a new job?
2.) Plain and simple: What do I need to do step-by-step to get all this done from start to finish, and how do I ensure I do things correctly from my own end so as not to repeat this process? For example: I only obtained my F-4 visa 3-years ago and started working. That was it. I never had to do any of the CBC + apostille + transcripts + healthcheck + any of this at all, so someone has to explain to me in detail. Thanks. The villagers who I work with around here in the boondocks can't really help me out here, so you guys are my only source of help for all of this.
3.) Is there any part of this whole process which I can get done just from within Korea (i.e. criminal background check, medical check) and not bother having to contact any of the bureaucrats stateside? I've heard that some hagwon wonjangs just accept the Korean criminal background checks from the F-visa holders without having to order the CBC from stateside.
4.) Is there an official Korean government website which spells out these new rules for the F-visa holders. If not a Korean government website, any official website -- or at the very least a reputable website which clearly establishes the rules for this whole process which I can take a good look at.
The reason I ask all these questions is due to the fact that I work mainly with 100% Korean native working staff around me who obviously have no answers to any of my queries in regards to these new regs.
Thanks for the help; I really appreciate this, everyone. |
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jeremysums
Joined: 08 Apr 2011
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Does that work?
young_clinton wrote: |
You could contact your congressman to get the CBC done quicker. While I've heard some people post successes in doing that. I contacted my congressman and have heard nothing and the CBC is taking the usuall amount of time. So................ |
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kellyciat
Joined: 01 May 2012
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah it does have to be within 6 months.
aznhybrid wrote: |
Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Here's another question....
I'm on an F-6 (changed from former F-2 visa at last visit), and have been working at the same university for like 7 years. Never had to get a CBC.
I am concerned about having one in-hand should I find myself looking for a job one day. Is this something I can get and just submit to an educational office so that they can have it on-file, or do I have to have an employer lined-up ahead of time? |
Well the CBC has to be within 6 months, so them having it on hand doesn't matter.
But what I think you could do, is order the CBC to prove that you haven't committed any crimes in your home country prior to moving to Korea. And even if it isn't in the 6 months window, as long as you haven't left Korea since the date on the CBC a local Korean background check should suffice. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: A couple FBI CBC Questions - |
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Matt_22 wrote: |
1) Who sends and receives the apostilled CBC? Should this be sent from applicant to the employer? FBI directly to immigration? I still don't know how this is supposed to work exactly. |
You have to get a notarized CBC from the FBI, which means you have to send an additional letter along with the application saying "Please notarize this CBC". Otherwise they will not notarize and you will not be able to get an apostille with it. Once you recieve the notarized CBC you send it to the Department of State. You must follow the instructions on http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/ and in 10 days you will get your apostilled CBC document.
Matt_22 wrote: |
2) Should I be requesting multiple apostilled copies? Is there any reason I should need more than one?
Any help would be much appreciated. |
I would ask for a minimum of two copies just in case you send it to a recruiter and they don't give it back, or you quit your job for another one in Korea. |
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