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Cancer on the rise in korea. Western diet to blame
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fosterman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Cancer on the rise in korea. Western diet to blame Reply with quote

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Cancer on a Steep Rise
The average life expectancy of Koreans is 81 years, even though the likelihood of getting cancer is 36.2 percent. But while the cancer rate is increasing every year, treatment technology is developing apace.

Korea has 808,503 cancer sufferers, which translates into one out of every 60 people, and among the over-65s, one out of 17 people have been diagnosed with cancer.

According to statistics released by the Ministry of Health and Welfare last week, 192,561 people -- 99,224 men and 93,337 women -- were newly diagnosed with cancer in 2009, up 6.7 percent from 2008 and a massive 90.6 percent from a decade ago.

The likelihood of getting cancer when a person lives to the average life expectancy -- 77 for men and 84 for women -- is 37.9 percent for men and 32.7 percent for women. This segment of the statistics was measured for the first time this year.

Lung cancer was most common type of cancer for men with 9.1 percent, and thyroid cancer for women with 7.9 percent.

From 1999 until 2009, the number of patients diagnosed with cancer went up by an annual average of 3.4 percent, and the increase rate was far more pronounced among women with 5.5 percent than men's 1.6 percent.

During this period, thyroid cancer jumped by a yearly average of 25.6 percent among men, followed by prostate cancer (13.2 percent) and colon cancer (6.7 percent). For women, thyroid cancer rose 25.4 percent, breast cancer 6.3 percent, and colon cancer 5.1 percent.

The National Cancer Center said the reason why thyroid cancer cases increased so dramatically is because early ultrasound diagnosis became common. The rising number of colon cancers is related to spread of westernized diet that is high in fat and low in fiber.


so they are blaming Colon cancer on the Western diet?
I don't understand what they mean?
do they mean mc donalds? pizza hutt? fried chicken?

these foods came into Korea during the 90's
so in theory men who are aged 60-70 years now and have developed Colon cancer, started eating Mc Donalds when they were 40 or 50 and pretty much ate it everyday??
old generation Koreans age 50 eating Maccas everyday?
I don't buy it.

I thought Korean food caused Colon cancer because of the spicy red pepper, the HUGE amounts of salt, preservation foods, pickles, kimchi etc..
or am I wrong?
did the west invade Korea and make them all fat, and giving them Cancer?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. It doesn't make sense. The generation developing colon cancer now would have eaten 99% Korean food most of their lives.

If there's one thing Koreans can't bear to consider it's that their beloved foods maybe aren't as healthy as they've been brainwashed to believe they are.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a completely unrelated story, Jinro and Hite Brewery Company reported record sales...
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Panda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article said : westernized diet that is high in fat and low in fiber.

It is well recognized high-fat processed food is closely related to colon cancer.

westernized (not western) food could be Mc.Donald, Pizza Hut, but it also could be ramen and pork cutlet.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Yeah. It doesn't make sense. The generation developing colon cancer now would have eaten 99% Korean food most of their lives.

If there's one thing Koreans can't bear to consider it's that their beloved foods maybe aren't as healthy as they've been brainwashed to believe they are.


I agree with this. Korean people all seem to believe that 'junk' food does not include Korean food.
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DIsbell



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
The article said : westernized diet that is high in fat and low in fiber.

It is well recognized high-fat processed food is closely related to colon cancer.

westernized (not western) food could be Mc.Donald, Pizza Hut, but it also could be ramen and pork cutlet.


What exactly is western(ized) about ramen? It originates from China and the instant variety was created by the Japanese.
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Panda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIsbell wrote:
Panda wrote:
The article said : westernized diet that is high in fat and low in fiber.

It is well recognized high-fat processed food is closely related to colon cancer.

westernized (not western) food could be Mc.Donald, Pizza Hut, but it also could be ramen and pork cutlet.


What exactly is western(ized) about ramen? It originates from China and the instant variety was created by the Japanese.



Westernized food (to me) pretty much equals food that requires technique developed after industrial revolution ( since it started from the west).

Is mashed potato westernized food? no, it's western food.

Is ramen western food, no, it was from the east. Even 100 years ago, we didn't have ramen, it was made 60 years ago by a Japanese, and then went mass production. I don't see the problem calling it westernized food.
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DIsbell



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it processed food?

We don't call automobiles and trains westernized transportation just because they required an industrial revolution. I normally don't get too defensive about this sort of thing, but it seems sort of lazy to call all the bad food "westernized" especially when Japan was and continues to be one of the major leaders in food/food science.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that some of the issues that are involved with the rising cancer rates include air pollution, high toxicity, processed foods that are mostly simple carbs and crap, cigarettes, alcohol, crap makeup and facial creams that are very toxic, lack of sunshine (vitamin D3), too much sodium, too much stress, little vacation time, unresolved conflicts, a chronic lack of sleep, lack of exercise, among other things...
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Panda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIsbell wrote:
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it processed food?

We don't call automobiles and trains westernized transportation just because they required an industrial revolution. I normally don't get too defensive about this sort of thing, but it seems sort of lazy to call all the bad food "westernized" especially when Japan was and continues to be one of the major leaders in food/food science.


I don't see why is it even an issue, it's just a name, like westerns tend to call all eastern Asians Chinese while they are not even from China.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
I would say that some of the issues that are involved with the rising cancer rates include air pollution, high toxicity, processed foods that are mostly simple carbs and crap, cigarettes, alcohol, crap makeup and facial creams that are very toxic, lack of sunshine (vitamin D3), too much sodium, too much stress, little vacation time, unresolved conflicts, a chronic lack of sleep, lack of exercise, among other things...


That's very possible Harpeau, but it comes to colon cancer, its almost certain that westernized diet plays the most important role. Also the colon cancer incidence tells pretty much the story: the highest is in Australia/NZ, followed by Western Europe, Southern Europe, Northern Europe, Northern America, Cnetral and Eastern Europe and then Eastern Asia and the rest of the world. (it's fair enough to blame the westernized food).


Eastern Asia has the highest stomach cancer and liver cancer rate and the second highest esophageal cancer rate in the world.

Its not Asian food is healthy, but still, Kimchi is not hamburger, they grow things in different parts of our body. Since Asians started to change their diet habit, the colon cancer rate has been growing significantly.
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DIsbell



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
DIsbell wrote:
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it processed food?

We don't call automobiles and trains westernized transportation just because they required an industrial revolution. I normally don't get too defensive about this sort of thing, but it seems sort of lazy to call all the bad food "westernized" especially when Japan was and continues to be one of the major leaders in food/food science.


I don't see why is it even an issue, it's just a name, like westerns tend to call all eastern Asians Chinese while they are not even from China.


No, I think that's something else entirely. Confusing someone's ethnicity is not the same as calling all the bad, cancer-causing food westernized. It's basically shifting blame and washing one's hands of processed food problems even though all of your mega corporations churn it out and distribute it to your own people to their tastes. It'd be more like blaming Seoul's air quality on westernized transportation and westernized manufacturing- disingenuous and jingoistic.

But maybe we should just start calling waterboarding "easternized interrogation" and indefinite detention without trial "easternized security." That'd surely go over real well!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
I don't see why is it even an issue, it's just a name, like westerns tend to call all eastern Asians Chinese while they are not even from China.


Those people are considered idiots by all except their fellow equally idiotic peers.

Anyway, I will agree with you on one thing, it's just a word. But processed food would raise less ire, it's obvious that the article intends to provoke people to form a negative opinion of Western food, not that Koreans need much help with that as it is.
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Maserial



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Anyway, I will agree with you on one thing, it's just a word. But processed food would raise less ire, it's obvious that the article intends to provoke people to form a negative opinion of Western food, not that Koreans need much help with that as it is.


I was just thinking about that myself, though I can't decide whether it's as you said, or more a need to further elevate traditional cuisine at the expense of others.
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Panda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You keep denying the fact that:

There is a HUGE difference between the Western society and the rest of the world when it comes to colon cancer.

Its not exaggerating to blame the food from the western world in general.

As I said, other factors (including unhealthy Asian food) do contribute to different other cancers as well. But we are talking about colon cancer here.


Its the diet habit we Asian used not to but then has been adopting, pretty much close to the western society.
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