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northway
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recessiontime
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What kind of priest is going to marry off 2 guys? How is this compatible with any religion? Legally, I can see how it can work out but I just can't comprehend how gay marriage can apply to any religion.
It's also interesting how the Obama administration has suddenly changed stances on this issue. Before they were against gay-marriage but okay with civil unions. What's changed now that made them reverse their stance? |
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Leon
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| recessiontime wrote: |
What kind of priest is going to marry off 2 guys? How is this compatible with any religion? Legally, I can see how it can work out but I just can't comprehend how gay marriage can apply to any religion.
It's also interesting how the Obama administration has suddenly changed stances on this issue. Before they were against gay-marriage but okay with civil unions. What's changed now that made them reverse their stance? |
When I was young I went to a baptist church that officiated gay marriages. I don't see why some religions wouldn't do it, especially if you believe that religion is more about love and salvation than about condemnation. Also, so what? Atheists don't get married? |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| It's also interesting how the Obama administration has suddenly changed stances on this issue. Before they were against gay-marriage but okay with civil unions. What's changed now that made them reverse their stance? |
have you never changed your opinion on something? |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
What kind of priest is going to marry off 2 guys? How is this compatible with any religion? Legally, I can see how it can work out but I just can't comprehend how gay marriage can apply to any religion.
It's also interesting how the Obama administration has suddenly changed stances on this issue. Before they were against gay-marriage but okay with civil unions. What's changed now that made them reverse their stance? |
Politics. There's an election coming. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| recessiontime wrote: |
What kind of priest is going to marry off 2 guys? How is this compatible with any religion? Legally, I can see how it can work out but I just can't comprehend how gay marriage can apply to any religion.
It's also interesting how the Obama administration has suddenly changed stances on this issue. Before they were against gay-marriage but okay with civil unions. What's changed now that made them reverse their stance? |
When I was young I went to a baptist church that officiated gay marriages. I don't see why some religions wouldn't do it, especially if you believe that religion is more about love and salvation than about condemnation. Also, so what? Atheists don't get married? |
You don't have to be married in a church. |
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northway
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| What kind of priest is going to marry off 2 guys? How is this compatible with any religion? Legally, I can see how it can work out but I just can't comprehend how gay marriage can apply to any. |
My grandfather? Plenty of Protestant denominations allow gay marriage. |
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Zackback
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This is an abomination.
Why stop at allowing gay marriages? Why not polygamous marriages? Why not 4 men marrying 4 women or 3 men with 5 women or close relatives (of legal age)?
What a mess. |
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comm
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| What kind of priest is going to marry off 2 guys? How is this compatible with any religion? |
Fortunately it's none of your business who two people find to marry them or what religion ascribes to the practice. |
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Kuros
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Well, who can deny this is good news?
And yet, until Obama's views on marijuana and the drug war also evolve, until Obama's views on assassinating American citizens also evolve, until Obama's views on prosecuting bankster fraud also evolve, until Obama's views on Presidential employment of state secrets also evolve, I'll still be voting for Gary Johnson. |
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No_hite_pls
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Well, who can deny this is good news?
And yet, until Obama's views on marijuana and the drug war also evolve, until Obama's views on assassinating American citizens also evolve, until Obama's views on prosecuting bankster fraud also evolve, until Obama's views on Presidential employment of state secrets also evolve, I'll still be voting for Gary Johnson. |
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fermentation
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This is an abomination.
Why stop at allowing gay marriages? Why not polygamous marriages? Why not 4 men marrying 4 women or 3 men with 5 women or close relatives (of legal age)?
What a mess. |
Are you just messing around or you really think like that? |
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Zackback
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| That's exactly what I'd like to ask Obama. |
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comm
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well, who can deny this is good news?
And yet, until Obama's views on marijuana and the drug war also evolve, until Obama's views on assassinating American citizens also evolve, until Obama's views on prosecuting bankster fraud also evolve, until Obama's views on Presidential employment of state secrets also evolve, I'll still be voting for Gary Johnson. |
Liked x2
Though Johnson isn't my first choice... |
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Unposter
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Well, I personally completely agree with President Obama on this! And, I think President Obama deserves a lot of credit for this announcement as he is the first sitting President to endorse equal marriage rights for homosexuals.
Some people want to paint this as crass politicism. But, it is not as if he were making this announcement two weeks before the election because he was trailing in the polls and he thought that this was a last stab at winning the election.
The conventions haven't even been held yet and the general election hasn't started.
For good or for bad, and I suspect it will be for good, President Obama's legacy will be tied to this announcement. It is a bold step forward for the country.
Making such statements is not easy for sitting Presidents. I am sure there are many other things that sitting Presidents believe that they are not always able to say.
And, I guess that is part of the reason why I am also sad to see Romney unable to follow suit. Can you imagine if Romney had just agreed with Obama? Could you imagine politicians in the U.S. actually united on an issue, especially one which supports equal rights?
Sadly, that day has not happened.
Would I love for Obama to embrace other freedoms? You bet! But, criticizing him for that is to cheapen the historic momment of this pronouncement into cheap politicization.
I think this is an historic momment which all Americans, of all political stripes, should embrace and be happy about.
Of course, we still need the legislation to follow the statement of support. But, lets not cloud this historic momment. |
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