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HANGRY
Joined: 04 Feb 2011
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 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: Teaching in other countries with a Korean wife: Visas, etc. |
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I'm American, and I was just wondering if I had a Korean wife, would I still be able to teach English in countries other than Korea or America? For example, could I go to Thailand or the Middle East when my wife's passport is different than mine, or does it not matter? Is there such thing as spousal visas? Does it hurt my chances at getting a job in some places if I have a wife from another country?
Pardon the ignorance, but any answers or anecdotes would be appreciated. |
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Modernist
Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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You'd be better off posting this either in the Jobs SF or over on the International forum.
The answer depends enormously on the country. The Thais probably wouldn't care much, but I would imagine you'd have some issues in the Middle East. Spousal visas often carry the burden to prove that you have sufficient assets to ensure the dependent spouse will not become a public ward in the destination country. Do you?
Does the would-be wife have any skills or qualifications? Is it your intention to support her over the long term teaching ESL? 'Cause that would be some lift, that I would NOT advise. Not to mention that Koreans, in my experience, don't adapt to foreign places terribly well either. They may claim they want to travel and 'see the world' but they are never really happy outside Korea. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching in other countries with a Korean wife: Visas, e |
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| HANGRY wrote: |
I'm American, and I was just wondering if I had a Korean wife, would I still be able to teach English in countries other than Korea or America? For example, could I go to Thailand or the Middle East when my wife's passport is different than mine, or does it not matter? Is there such thing as spousal visas? Does it hurt my chances at getting a job in some places if I have a wife from another country?
Pardon the ignorance, but any answers or anecdotes would be appreciated. |
Having a spouse with a different passport is a non-issue.
Spousal (dependent) visas are easily obtainable if you have a proper work visa/work permit.
The only requirement is proof that you are legally married (usually a legalized or authenticated copy of the marriage certificate is required).
The same is true for dependent children (proof of family relationship (birth certificate) required).
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Modernist wrote: |
| Not to mention that Koreans, in my experience, don't adapt to foreign places terribly well either. They may claim they want to travel and 'see the world' but they are never really happy outside Korea. |
You must be talking about the millions of Koreans who have emigrated to the US, Canada and Australia. Or perhaps the tens of thousands of Koreans who are currently studying abroad in the US, Europe, Japan, China and South East Asia. Or perhaps the hundreds of thousands of Koreans who travel abroad each year - from weekend trips to Hong Kong, to 3month backpack trips around Europe.
Yup, lets generalise and say that Koreans don't adapt well to foreign places. Especially on an English teacher's board which is often filled with complaints about Korea, and whose membership includes a significant number of people who can't even speak the language of the country they live in. |
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Modernist
Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| You must be talking about the millions of Koreans who have emigrated to the US, Canada and Australia. |
Guess you mean the ones who, in virtually every city they come to, create and settle in a tightly defined 'Koreatown' that does its very very best to replicate life here. See Lawrence Avenue in Chicago, see Flushing in NYC, see the HUGE chunk of the Westside in LA. Hell, see Qingdao in China for that matter. And as for 2nd or 3rd generation, of course they are integrated. They're Americans/Canadians/Aussies. But the 1st gens are as self-segregated as any ethnicity in the world.
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| Or perhaps the tens of thousands of Koreans who are currently studying abroad in the US, Europe, Japan, China and South East Asia |
Guess you mean the ones who stay tightly clustered in their ethnic student bloc, FAR more than anyone else. The ones who have their own little restaurant network, live in the same cheap housing, study and partner with only their own groups. I saw this over and over at 3 different universities in the US.
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| Or perhaps the hundreds of thousands of Koreans who travel abroad each year - from weekend trips to Hong Kong, to 3month backpack trips around Europe. |
3 months backpacking --and really, you would claim this is common among young Koreans?--is nothing like permanent resettlement, working and raising a family while living abroad.
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| whose membership includes a significant number of people who can't even speak the language of the country they live in. |
I'm spending quite a bit of time studying Spanish, if that makes you feel any better. |
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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Bear in mind when it comes to information related to spousal visas the left hand often doesn't know what the right is doing. Immigration actually in the destination country will provide you with completely different info to that you get from the embassy of that country.
Point being - overprepare. Even if you are told you won't need certain docs or notary stamps get them anyway.
I currently teach in Jiangsu province in China and the information regarding what I need for my (Indonesian) wife's spousal visa has changed 3 times from the exact same PSB office.
The current requirement is we get stamps from the Chinese consulates in both Australia *and* Indonesia verifying our marriage. Australian nor Indonesian authentications will pass muster contrary to what they first said.
Thankfully they were willing to convert the "Z residence visa" over to a 6 month tourist visa for her without any real fuss....however at the end of the 6 months....who knows? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| You must be talking about the millions of Koreans who have emigrated to the US, Canada and Australia. |
Guess you mean the ones who, in virtually every city they come to, create and settle in a tightly defined 'Koreatown' that does its very very best to replicate life here. See Lawrence Avenue in Chicago, see Flushing in NYC, see the HUGE chunk of the Westside in LA. Hell, see Qingdao in China for that matter. And as for 2nd or 3rd generation, of course they are integrated. They're Americans/Canadians/Aussies. But the 1st gens are as self-segregated as any ethnicity in the world.
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And this is true of most ethnicities the world over. That's why we have Chinatowns in many big cities in N.America. 1st generations tend to cluster together. |
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jurassic82
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere!!!!
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Modernist wrote: |
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| You must be talking about the millions of Koreans who have emigrated to the US, Canada and Australia. |
Guess you mean the ones who, in virtually every city they come to, create and settle in a tightly defined 'Koreatown' that does its very very best to replicate life here. See Lawrence Avenue in Chicago, see Flushing in NYC, see the HUGE chunk of the Westside in LA. Hell, see Qingdao in China for that matter. And as for 2nd or 3rd generation, of course they are integrated. They're Americans/Canadians/Aussies. But the 1st gens are as self-segregated as any ethnicity in the world.
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And this is true of most ethnicities the world over. That's why we have Chinatowns in many big cities in N.America. 1st generations tend to cluster together. |
Let's not forget Itaewon and HaeBongCheon. That is a little piece of Heaven Westerners in Korea. We do the same. Good luck getting your wife a VISA. I have had friends that have gone to other countries to teach with their Korean wife and had no problems. Not sure what exactley they had to do to get the VISA but it didn't seem like much of an issue in the end. |
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Brooks
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Well in Japan it would be easy. Your wife could get a dependent visa. |
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