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weebil



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: home again home again Reply with quote

i've been back in the US now for about six months after teaching in korea for 2 years. ask me anything.
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The Sultan of Seoul



Joined: 17 Apr 2012
Location: right... behind.. YOU

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you feel about it?
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weebil



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sultan of Seoul wrote:
How do you feel about it?


how do i feel about what?
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The Sultan of Seoul



Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weebil wrote:
The Sultan of Seoul wrote:
How do you feel about it?


how do i feel about what?


Um, being back home.
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weebil



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... i don't know. it's a bummer in most ways. i remember now that i hate having to drive everywhere. the cost of living here is so high. and everyone is so fat, it grosses me out. i have to go back to school now because i can't get a job with benefits and pay nearly as good as those i had in korea. and all my friends are still doing the same boring stuff they were doing when i left, which is kind of depressing.

but on the upside i have more free time since i'm working only part time, though that will go away of course when my classes start. and i've got my music career going again which i couldn't do in korea. but yeah, i don't really feel great about being back here, but i didn't want to do ESL my whole life. i really wish i could get a job i liked, but in korea [or overseas somewhere else].
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the freedom of going into any store you want and asking for help without any hint of confusion HAS to be refreshing.
And the food alone in the US is worth going back.
You blend in without being stared at. That's a plus.
Look on the bright side, it can't be that bad.
Korea is not home to me. I can't stand living here and can't wait to get home.
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't get a job that makes roughly 25K a year? That's depressing.
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Ballerina2012



Joined: 17 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you teach and live? I am moving over this summer, all I do is worry about the stupid drug test. I take prescription anti-depressant, and anxiety(Lorazepam). I am getting off the Lorazepam in June, but staying on the other. I have this nightmare about failing the damn drug test!
Stupid, yes, I know, but I can't help it!
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ballerina2012 wrote:
Where did you teach and live? I am moving over this summer, all I do is worry about the stupid drug test. I take prescription anti-depressant, and anxiety(Lorazepam). I am getting off the Lorazepam in June, but staying on the other. I have this nightmare about failing the damn drug test!
Stupid, yes, I know, but I can't help it!


If you're on an anti-depressant like an SSRI you'll be fine, they won't show up on a drug screen.

Just don't admit to your employer or anyone else at your school that you're taking them.
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The Sultan of Seoul



Joined: 17 Apr 2012
Location: right... behind.. YOU

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:
Ballerina2012 wrote:
Where did you teach and live? I am moving over this summer, all I do is worry about the stupid drug test. I take prescription anti-depressant, and anxiety(Lorazepam). I am getting off the Lorazepam in June, but staying on the other. I have this nightmare about failing the damn drug test!
Stupid, yes, I know, but I can't help it!


If you're on an anti-depressant like an SSRI you'll be fine, they won't show up on a drug screen.

Just don't admit to your employer or anyone else at your school that you're taking them.


Exactly.

Again , they are not screening for that so it can't even show up on the test.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Dodge7"]the freedom of going into any store you want and asking for help without any hint of confusion HAS to be refreshing.
And the food alone in the US is worth going back.
You blend in without being stared at. That's a plus.
Look on the bright side, it can't be that bad.
Korea is not home to me. I can't stand living here and can't wait to get home.[/quote]

Does your pregnant Korea wife know of your feelings?

Anyway, if you guys are going to move back home with a baby in tow, I hope you do well!

We made the move and it was in what I would call optimal employment conditions. I know others who struggled and at the end of the day home is like Korea: imperfect and no paradise. You just trade one set of circumstances for another!

Also factor in that your Korean spouse will need to adapt and will be away from her support network (family and friends) be completely reliant on you in the begining. That is something that can be challenging to deal with even it is not critical.

We moved back to Canada with our two kids and it took a while for my wife to adapt. She gets the K-blues regularly and thankfully we get to travel back each year since we left and her parents visit too. Finally, having mixed kids, and this is just my opinion, puts the onus on us as parents to at least respect the mixed cultural heritage of our children. You can bet that living abroad may in fact lead a Korean spouse to put extra value on her culture and want to pass it on to her kids in an environment where it is not dominant (ex: US, Canada...) just like it would be important for a westerner to pass on his values to his kids in Korea....

Good luck and all the best if you guys make the move.
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She knows my feelings all too well. I have told her that I will try not to talk bad about Korea and always comment on how things are better in America and how I wish I was home.
And like you, we would most likely take yearly trips to Korea since she is very close to her mom. No problem there.
Work is a problem though. I'm a licensed teacher back home and I just don't have the connections to get into a school district. I'll need to work on that.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
She knows my feelings all too well. I have told her that I will try not to talk bad about Korea and always comment on how things are better in America and how I wish I was home.
And like you, we would most likely take yearly trips to Korea since she is very close to her mom. No problem there.
Work is a problem though. I'm a licensed teacher back home and I just don't have the connections to get into a school district. I'll need to work on that.


Indeed and if my advice is worth anything to ya...secure a job or interviews before you move over with your wife and child!

It will make the transition far easier.

Anyway, if you want to discuss the general difficulties or challenges of moving back home with a foreign spouse, feel free to pm me. It will be my pleasure to help if I can.

If not, all the best to you guys.
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
She knows my feelings all too well. I have told her that I will try not to talk bad about Korea and always comment on how things are better in America and how I wish I was home.
And like you, we would most likely take yearly trips to Korea since she is very close to her mom. No problem there.
Work is a problem though. I'm a licensed teacher back home and I just don't have the connections to get into a school district. I'll need to work on that.


Indeed and if my advice is worth anything to ya...secure a job or interviews before you move over with your wife and child!

It will make the transition far easier.

Anyway, if you want to discuss the general difficulties or challenges of moving back home with a foreign spouse, feel free to pm me. It will be my pleasure to help if I can.

If not, all the best to you guys.


Bloody hell, Dodge and Patrick passing olive branches like a couple of Greek farmers. Tear in my eye!
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
the freedom of going into any store you want and asking for help without any hint of confusion HAS to be refreshing.
And the food alone in the US is worth going back.
You blend in without being stared at. That's a plus.
Look on the bright side, it can't be that bad.
Korea is not home to me. I can't stand living here and can't wait to get home.



These parts are exactly what impacted me the most when I first came back.

Then the reality sets in; Asking for help can be a major pain in the ass when you have a huge ratio of idiots to decent, knowledgeable employees, the food - can't complain, you blend in but you're no longer a movie star. (I guess that went out with the 90's as well in Korea, eh)

Come home, everyone eventually does. Except for a very few minority that don't mind getting old and passing there.

The west welcomes you back. All it takes is half a brain; getting a decent job is not that difficult. Getting yourself a stellar job takes time, energy and patience and to be willing to do other things while you work on the big goal.

But you can't do it from there (In most professions) You have to be here. Some people get lucky and get the kind of gig where they can commute and work from home, pop into the office once a week for a meeting, and you're good. Saves gas, environment, everyone is happy. The key is to find your niche, whether it's writing SQL, or writing children's books.
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