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Eedoryeong
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 Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject: re: training for int.l schools elsewhere |
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I was signing up for some online recruiting sites and I saw somewhere that some certified international teachers can make close to $100K/ year. This seemed unlikely but I am asking: where on Earth (and how) could a common certified international schoolteacher make that much?
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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IF true, these people would be at the top of their field probably with with Ph.D's and certifications galore. Your average ESL teacher doesn't have a hope of making this much here.
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| International schools pay anywhere from 18,000 to 100,000+ USD/year, with most schools in the 30,000-60,000 range, depending on degrees and years of teaching experience. Benefits are good, with housing, annual flight, health care, professional development funding, and more - but expectations/work load is high to extrememly high, especially PD and extracurricular student contact time. You must have teacher certification (not ESL or TEFL certification) and, usually, some full-time teaching experience. A masters degree and/or a spouse who is also a certified teacher helps. |
Here is another thread with some links in the last post.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2786688
So to answer your question it would depend on your degrees, experience, certification as a teacher back home AND the school. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: re: training for int.l schools elsewhere |
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| Eedoryeong wrote: |
I was signing up for some online recruiting sites and I saw somewhere that some certified international teachers can make close to $100K/ year. This seemed unlikely but I am asking: where on Earth (and how) could a common certified international schoolteacher make that much?
Thanks in advance |
There is nowhere on the planet that I am aware of where a teacher of any flavor will make US$100k (including benefits).
US$40-60k per anum + benefits (and a low cost of living) however is pretty common for remuneration packages in the better international schools in many places.
Earning US$40k per year in Thailand (100k thb/month) for example will give you net savings similar to what someone earning $100k at home would be able to save and you will certainly live like someone earning 100k+ at home.
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: re: training for int.l schools elsewhere |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Eedoryeong wrote: |
I was signing up for some online recruiting sites and I saw somewhere that some certified international teachers can make close to $100K/ year. This seemed unlikely but I am asking: where on Earth (and how) could a common certified international schoolteacher make that much?
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There is nowhere on the planet that I am aware of where a teacher of any flavor will make US$100k (including benefits).
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Some make far more...then again they don't teach at an international school
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2094427-2,00.html
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| Andrew Kim, a very successful instructor at Megastudy, South Korea's largest hagwon, says he earned $4 million last year from online and in-person lectures |
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northway
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| There is nowhere on the planet that I am aware of where a teacher of any flavor will make US$100k (including benefits). |
Ttompatz: you're a great resource here, but you don't know everything. Just in Korea there are teachers making that much, and that takes the Middle East out of the equation. |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
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| There is nowhere on the planet that I am aware of where a teacher of any flavor will make US$100k (including benefits). |
Ttompatz: you're a great resource here, but you don't know everything. Just in Korea there are teachers making that much, and that takes the Middle East out of the equation. |
I think Ttompatz is right on this one. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
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| There is nowhere on the planet that I am aware of where a teacher of any flavor will make US$100k (including benefits). |
Ttompatz: you're a great resource here, but you don't know everything. Just in Korea there are teachers making that much, and that takes the Middle East out of the equation. |
I think Ttompatz is right on this one. |
No, he's not. Maybe not teachers in conventional schools, but there are definitely teachers making more than that, particularly from test prep. |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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The topic was "International School Teacher".
(they don't work on a commission basis or get paid on the lecture circuit).
Name ONE international (k-12) school where the remuneration package for a k-12 teacher is over US$60k never mind US$100k.
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northway
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
The topic was "International School Teacher".
(they don't work on a commission basis or get paid on the lecture circuit).
Name ONE international (k-12) school where the remuneration package for a k-12 teacher is over US$60k never mind US$100k.
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That wasn't what you said though.
Again, there are teachers - not lecturers - who make that kind of money. |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
The topic was "International School Teacher".
(they don't work on a commission basis or get paid on the lecture circuit).
Name ONE international (k-12) school where the remuneration package for a k-12 teacher is over US$60k never mind US$100k.
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That wasn't what you said though.
Again, there are teachers - not lecturers - who make that kind of money. |
Post subject: re: training for int.l schools elsewhere
| Eedoryeong wrote: |
| I was signing up for some online recruiting sites and I saw somewhere that some certified international teachers can make close to $100K/ year. |
to which I replied (on topic)
| ttompatz wrote: |
There is nowhere on the planet that I am aware of where a teacher of any flavor will make US$100k (including benefits).
US$40-60k per anum + benefits (and a low cost of living) however is pretty common for remuneration packages in the better international schools in many places. |
Why would I speak off-topic?
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northway
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| "Anywhere in the world" and "of any flavor" are pretty sweeping statements, and TUM also pointed out that they were inaccurate. |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| "Anywhere in the world" and "of any flavor" are pretty sweeping statements, and TUM also pointed out that they were inaccurate. |
Neither that sweeping (within the context of the topic)
nor inaccurate (within the context of the comment and my reply to the comment that included said statement you take issue with)
and I stand by it.
Find me ONE properly accredited International School with remuneration packages higher than those I indicated.
Find me just one and I will retract my statement. Until then, I will stand by my statement.
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BriTunes
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| You can make over 100K at International schools in Japan, Switzerland, Germany, much of Scandanavia and England. Mind you, these are the top 3-4 International schools in those counties. In the top few schools in Japan for instance, entry level pay on the scale is about 71K, but with 5-8 years documented Int'l school experience with MA, you are at about 100K. If i remember right, you can max out at around 130/140k. However, the only time these positions become available is when someone retires or dies, as once someone lands one of these jobs, they almost always stay. And when these top schools DO hire, they usually hire someone with 10 or more years teaching in their home country, AND with 5+ years at other Int'l schools. |
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BriTunes
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Starting salary for new teachers with no experience is $83,400 usd at the American School-Japan. Google. |
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| You can make over 100K at International schools in Japan, Switzerland, Germany, much of Scandanavia and England. Mind you, these are the top 3-4 International schools in those counties |
Isn't the point of an international school being able to send your kid to a school where all the lessons are taught in English, when you're living in a non-English speaking country? So why would it be called an international school in England? Wouldn't it just be called a school? . |
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