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jpe
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Location: Seoul, SK
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 Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: "Crazy English" in Korea? |
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Hello..
I've posted on here before about this briefly, but I'm working on a documentary on noise while living in Korea.
I'm not sure how many people know about Li Yang and his "Crazy English"..if not I would suggest reading the New Yorker piece (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/28/080428fa_fact_osnos)...basically it involves mass English classes conducted like massive workouts/motivational speech seminars...there's a lot of yelling of English phrases.
Anyway, I'd thought of going to China to try and cover one of his workshops, but was wondering if anyone had any direct experience with any similar programs here...I know he's become popular here as well, and have heard his methods have been copied (i.e. using shouting and loud music). There's also already been a fairly prominent Chinese doc on Yang so I'm more interested in shooting something else. Like everything here, I can only assume his approach has been taken to the nth degree of ridiculousness. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:21 am Post subject: Re: "Crazy English" in Korea? |
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| jpe wrote: |
Hello..
I've posted on here before about this briefly, but I'm working on a documentary on noise while living in Korea.
I'm not sure how many people know about Li Yang and his "Crazy English"..if not I would suggest reading the New Yorker piece (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/28/080428fa_fact_osnos)...basically it involves mass English classes conducted like massive workouts/motivational speech seminars...there's a lot of yelling of English phrases.
Anyway, I'd thought of going to China to try and cover one of his workshops, but was wondering if anyone had any direct experience with any similar programs here...I know he's become popular here as well, and have heard his methods have been copied (i.e. using shouting and loud music). There's also already been a fairly prominent Chinese doc on Yang so I'm more interested in shooting something else. Like everything here, I can only assume his approach has been taken to the nth degree of ridiculousness. |
South Korea is one of the loudest places I've ever lived. Can't stand it or the apparent total indifference of its effects on others. No noise ordinances from what I've heard or seen.
Yelling of English phrases w/ music (occasionally at least) = elementary school teaching.
A teacher I work with said that a measurable loss of hearing for SK teachers is more or less considered inevitable - an occupational hazard along with voice changes due to talking loud, feet problems from standing etc.. |
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jpe
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Seoul, SK
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:06 am Post subject: Re: "Crazy English" in Korea? |
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| tideout wrote: |
| jpe wrote: |
Hello..
I've posted on here before about this briefly, but I'm working on a documentary on noise while living in Korea.
I'm not sure how many people know about Li Yang and his "Crazy English"..if not I would suggest reading the New Yorker piece (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/28/080428fa_fact_osnos)...basically it involves mass English classes conducted like massive workouts/motivational speech seminars...there's a lot of yelling of English phrases.
Anyway, I'd thought of going to China to try and cover one of his workshops, but was wondering if anyone had any direct experience with any similar programs here...I know he's become popular here as well, and have heard his methods have been copied (i.e. using shouting and loud music). There's also already been a fairly prominent Chinese doc on Yang so I'm more interested in shooting something else. Like everything here, I can only assume his approach has been taken to the nth degree of ridiculousness. |
South Korea is one of the loudest places I've ever lived. Can't stand it or the apparent total indifference of its effects on others. No noise ordinances from what I've heard or seen.
Yelling of English phrases w/ music (occasionally at least) = elementary school teaching.
A teacher I work with said that a measurable loss of hearing for SK teachers is more or less considered inevitable - an occupational hazard along with voice changes due to talking loud, feet problems from standing etc.. |
Right, I understand a lot of English classes have something close to that....I'm talking more like a form of English boot camp. Yelling very loudly, having the students repeat it very loudly...I'm wondering if anyone's experienced a place like this.
But yes, fair point, I could probably drop in on a random elementary school and get a pretty noisy environment |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:15 am Post subject: Re: "Crazy English" in Korea? |
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| jpe wrote: |
| tideout wrote: |
| jpe wrote: |
Hello..
I've posted on here before about this briefly, but I'm working on a documentary on noise while living in Korea.
I'm not sure how many people know about Li Yang and his "Crazy English"..if not I would suggest reading the New Yorker piece (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/28/080428fa_fact_osnos)...basically it involves mass English classes conducted like massive workouts/motivational speech seminars...there's a lot of yelling of English phrases.
Anyway, I'd thought of going to China to try and cover one of his workshops, but was wondering if anyone had any direct experience with any similar programs here...I know he's become popular here as well, and have heard his methods have been copied (i.e. using shouting and loud music). There's also already been a fairly prominent Chinese doc on Yang so I'm more interested in shooting something else. Like everything here, I can only assume his approach has been taken to the nth degree of ridiculousness. |
South Korea is one of the loudest places I've ever lived. Can't stand it or the apparent total indifference of its effects on others. No noise ordinances from what I've heard or seen.
Yelling of English phrases w/ music (occasionally at least) = elementary school teaching.
A teacher I work with said that a measurable loss of hearing for SK teachers is more or less considered inevitable - an occupational hazard along with voice changes due to talking loud, feet problems from standing etc.. |
Right, I understand a lot of English classes have something close to that....I'm talking more like a form of English boot camp. Yelling very loudly, having the students repeat it very loudly...I'm wondering if anyone's experienced a place like this.
But yes, fair point, I could probably drop in on a random elementary school and get a pretty noisy environment |
Gotcha. Maybe others with more time in Korea will be able to point you in the right direction - good luck with the search in the mean time.
Regards -tideout |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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I thought of all of that, but the ppl would have to be willing to speak in English, and of course, theyd have to be willing to discuss things, which in my 12 years of various classes, I generally find lacking. I find MYSELF discussing things...
theyd like the part about repeating for sure..... |
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jpe
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| happiness wrote: |
I thought of all of that, but the ppl would have to be willing to speak in English, and of course, theyd have to be willing to discuss things, which in my 12 years of various classes, I generally find lacking. I find MYSELF discussing things...
theyd like the part about repeating for sure..... |
Not sure what you mean...you mean the teachers/students would have to be willing to discuss it with me in English? I hadn't really planned on doing much in the way of interviews honestly |
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sublunari
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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My experience in an elementary school here would suggest that the children scream English as loud as they possibly can because it is in their natures to do so, not because of this Chinese guy. And, strangely enough, now that I think about it, at least one of the children I can remember, who shrieked his stock phrases at me each time I saw him as if I was hacking off his schlong with a blunt object, definitely spoke the language at a few levels above his (relatively) quieter classmates.
edit: heheh, the dirty language filters aren't set for Yiddish! |
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