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Advice on bringing a husband and infant son

 
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aussieteacher



Joined: 24 Oct 2014

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:02 am    Post subject: Advice on bringing a husband and infant son Reply with quote

Hi all,

I've been reading this board regularly for months and thought I'd finally ask: is a move to Korea worth it?

I'm a 29 year old Australian with seven years high school teaching experience and have taken unpaid leave (we're allowed up to 7 years) and my husband and I've been discussing over the past 10 months or so whether to make the plunge.

We don't have any debts (I know this is often a reason people want to teach ESL) and my job here at home is legally secure and set in stone (for those who wonder why we would risk anything).

In talking to recruiters so far, the feedback we've had has been disappointing because most of them recoil as soon as they hear that I'll be bringing my husband and 1 year old son. My husband isn't a teacher and he'll be the primary caregiver to our son; he has a steady outside salary, too, which I'm not even sure factors into their horror or not.

I've been told universities and international schools are the avenues I should be chasing, but I don't have any of the requisite uni experience.

Are we chasing something here that might not exist?
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basic69isokay



Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa!! I'm going to be gentle here but no, absolutely not.
This is NOT a good idea. ESL here is dying. I'm not saying stay where you are necessarily, but Korea is not the place to come right now. Even for single people. But with a baby? Hmm youd better have a look at some international schools in other countries if you really want to leave AUS.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Advice on bringing a husband and infant son Reply with quote

aussieteacher wrote:
Hi all,

I've been reading this board regularly for months and thought I'd finally ask: is a move to Korea worth it?

I'm a 29 year old Australian with seven years high school teaching experience and have taken unpaid leave (we're allowed up to 7 years) and my husband and I've been discussing over the past 10 months or so whether to make the plunge.

We don't have any debts (I know this is often a reason people want to teach ESL) and my job here at home is legally secure and set in stone (for those who wonder why we would risk anything).

In talking to recruiters so far, the feedback we've had has been disappointing because most of them recoil as soon as they hear that I'll be bringing my husband and 1 year old son. My husband isn't a teacher and he'll be the primary caregiver to our son; he has a steady outside salary, too, which I'm not even sure factors into their horror or not.

I've been told universities and international schools are the avenues I should be chasing, but I don't have any of the requisite uni experience.

Are we chasing something here that might not exist?


Let's put things into perspective.

EFL in Korea is a kids game.
You would be placed into a one-room studio apartment of about 6m * 6m. (think dorm room).
You will earn about 2.1million KRW (about 2100 AUD).
They will NOT assist with alternative housing, transportation or visa issues in regards to your family.

IF you want to do this then apply as a single.
Fly to Korea.
AFTER you get your ARC (residence card) you can bring your family over on F3 (dependent family) visas.

ALTERNATIVELY:
IF you a properly licensed secondary school teacher then look at the international school circuit or if you still want EFL programs like NET in HongKong, JET in Japan or public school jobs in Taiwan.

These (EFL jobs) will pay in the range of $3200 to $3500 AUD plus benefits like airfare, family housing, family relocation assistance, etc. They REQUIRE that you are a properly and currently licensed teacher.

Secondary school teachers in international schools also do quite well and they usually provide for tuition for your children while you are employed with them.

If you are qualified to teach secondary school maths or subjects in the Physical Sciences then the demand is even higher (as are the benefit packages).

On the international school circuit you can expect remuneration packages (salary and benefits) in the $50k-60k per year.

http://www.tes.co.uk/jobs <-- pick a country and work out from there.
http://www.searchassociates.com <-- fee but great info on the international school circuit as well as job fairs.
http://www.internationalschoolsreview.com <-- fee to join but the forums are free.
http://www.ibo.org <-- apply to individual schools and not to the ibo.

There are others as well.

As to traveling and working abroad with your family you can ignore the idiots on here. They don't have kids and have no clue what they are on about.

Working abroad as a teacher is certainly possible and is a great experience for your child as they grow and for a new and growing family. They do need to be taken into consideration as you look but it is certainty a viable option.

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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does your husband do? If he is qualified to teach English in Korea (any uni degree will do) then the both of you could work. You could get a larger place and pay for it yourself. Many jobs offer a housing allowance in lieu of the paid housing. The issue may then be child care for your son.

You being married means more work potentially for recruiters. Think of recruiters as...you know that slimy stuff you get on your bathtub?? One level above that. They will not do extra work for you.

Do I think it's a good idea? Not really. I'm just being honest. However, if you are determined, then go for it. Myself or others will help you out.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell the schools that you want housing allowance instead of an apartment. Some will even help you to look for a place since it's a LOT better for them to just give you the money and have you take care of all the admin (especially if you leave early or they decide to fire you).

The only universities that will hire you without experience are not real universities. They're the diploma mill sort. In general, working there is no better than working at a hogwon.

It's very simple to get a dependent visa for your husband and child.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted about 17 jobs with links on the 'Getting a university job without university experience' thread. IF you have your MA, many of the places might give you a look. A lot of the places offer air fare (only for you) and housing or an allowance. Some of the jobs even take BA holders with experience.

If you're set on Korea, then one of these jobs or an international school would be the way to go. You're running short on time to apply so best to get on the stick if you want a position beginning next term.

If you're just thinking of doing some time in Asia? HK's NET program for sure, though the cost of living there is even higher than Seoul, and it's pretty darn high here!
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