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John Junior



Joined: 31 Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:54 am    Post subject: Re:D10 Visa Reply with quote

Sorry, I know this is irritating for people to see the same questions reappear on Dave's, but before you start launching on a tirade I did do a search and no information is available on the D10 for the 2012 year. I did a search on Google and the Visa sticky under Dave's cafe employment related questions page, there are no 2012 year updates. All the threads are over three years old.

And this is S.K things change everyday. I need clarity on an issue. I would like to change jobs in two months time, it will then make it six months that I have been in S.K. My understanding is that after six months I can apply for a D10 is that correct? And is it possible to change jobs before the cooling off period without having to do a visa run?

Thanks in advance.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Re:D10 Visa Reply with quote

John Junior wrote:
Sorry, I know this is irritating for people to see the same questions reappear on Dave's, but before you start launching on a tirade I did do a search and no information is available on the D10 for the 2012 year. I did a search on Google and the Visa sticky under Dave's cafe employment related questions page, there are no 2012 year updates. All the threads are over three years old.

And this is S.K things change everyday. I need clarity on an issue. I would like to change jobs in two months time, it will then make it six months that I have been in S.K. My understanding is that after six months I can apply for a D10 is that correct? And is it possible to change jobs before the cooling off period without having to do a visa run?

Thanks in advance.


Tirade launcher on.
The D10 was not offered more than a year ago (as a bridge visa to E2 holders).
ALL information about the D10 would have been less than 1 year old.
I alone have posted more than 30 times about the D10.
Launcher off.

You cannot do anything with your visa other that quit and leave the country unless you have your employer's permission to do so (termination of employment or LOR)

END of contract you can switch to a D10 or transfer with no fuss.

Middle of the contract you need a LOR, notice of termination of employment, or valid claim at the labor board to allow a transfer of visa to a new employer or switch to a D10.

IF you cannot get a LOR, notice of termination of employment (your fired letter) or a valid claim at the labor office then your ONLY other real option is to obtain new documents, jump out of the country handing in your ARC as you leave (canceling your visa) then return as a tourist and begin the visa process all over again. This will also necessitate another visa run (usually at the new employer's expense) to get a new E2.

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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:56 am    Post subject: Re:D10 Visa Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
John Junior wrote:
Sorry, I know this is irritating for people to see the same questions reappear on Dave's, but before you start launching on a tirade I did do a search and no information is available on the D10 for the 2012 year. I did a search on Google and the Visa sticky under Dave's cafe employment related questions page, there are no 2012 year updates. All the threads are over three years old.

And this is S.K things change everyday. I need clarity on an issue. I would like to change jobs in two months time, it will then make it six months that I have been in S.K. My understanding is that after six months I can apply for a D10 is that correct? And is it possible to change jobs before the cooling off period without having to do a visa run?

Thanks in advance.


Tirade launcher on.
The D10 was not offered more than a year ago (as a bridge visa to E2 holders).
ALL information about the D10 would have been less than 1 year old.
I alone have posted more than 30 times about the D10.
Launcher off.

You cannot do anything with your visa other that quit and leave the country unless you have your employer's permission to do so (termination of employment or LOR)

END of contract you can switch to a D10 or transfer with no fuss.

Middle of the contract you need a LOR, notice of termination of employment, or valid claim at the labor board to allow a transfer of visa to a new employer or switch to a D10.

IF you cannot get a LOR, notice of termination of employment (your fired letter) or a valid claim at the labor office then your ONLY other real option is to obtain new documents, jump out of the country handing in your ARC as you leave (canceling your visa) then return as a tourist and begin the visa process all over again. This will also necessitate another visa run (usually at the new employer's expense) to get a new E2.

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With a letter from your boss saying that you're fired, can you go to immigration and transfer an E2 or get a D10? Can you use it in any circumstance or are there certain limitation on that which would make a LOR the only option? I know that if you're fired because the school is going out of business or downsizing then you can transfer. I wasn't aware that other types of being fired are also valid. I'm very curious about other situations in which you could be fired and then transfer your visa.

I don't recall having met anyone who was able to transfer their visa with a "your fired" letter (with the exception of being fired for financial reasons). Is it a new thing?
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John Junior



Joined: 31 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re:D10 Visa Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
John Junior wrote:
Sorry, I know this is irritating for people to see the same questions reappear on Dave's, but before you start launching on a tirade I did do a search and no information is available on the D10 for the 2012 year. I did a search on Google and the Visa sticky under Dave's cafe employment related questions page, there are no 2012 year updates. All the threads are over three years old.

And this is S.K things change everyday. I need clarity on an issue. I would like to change jobs in two months time, it will then make it six months that I have been in S.K. My understanding is that after six months I can apply for a D10 is that correct? And is it possible to change jobs before the cooling off period without having to do a visa run?

Thanks in advance.


Tirade launcher on.
The D10 was not offered more than a year ago (as a bridge visa to E2 holders).
ALL information about the D10 would have been less than 1 year old.
I alone have posted more than 30 times about the D10.
Launcher off.

You cannot do anything with your visa other that quit and leave the country unless you have your employer's permission to do so (termination of employment or LOR)

END of contract you can switch to a D10 or transfer with no fuss.

Middle of the contract you need a LOR, notice of termination of employment, or valid claim at the labor board to allow a transfer of visa to a new employer or switch to a D10.

IF you cannot get a LOR, notice of termination of employment (your fired letter) or a valid claim at the labor office then your ONLY other real option is to obtain new documents, jump out of the country handing in your ARC as you leave (canceling your visa) then return as a tourist and begin the visa process all over again. This will also necessitate another visa run (usually at the new employer's expense) to get a new E2.

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http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=209808

http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?b_id=77&c_id=724&mnu=a02b03&start=1

Ttompatz, you said you posted numerous statements on the D10 Visa, where are they?

They are not on the Dave's link I have attached. Prey do tell, where did you post your enquiries on the D10?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re:D10 Visa Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
With a letter from your boss saying that you're fired, can you go to immigration and transfer an E2 or get a D10? Can you use it in any circumstance or are there certain limitation on that which would make a LOR the only option? I know that if you're fired because the school is going out of business or downsizing then you can transfer. I wasn't aware that other types of being fired are also valid. I'm very curious about other situations in which you could be fired and then transfer your visa.

I don't recall having met anyone who was able to transfer their visa with a "your fired" letter (with the exception of being fired for financial reasons). Is it a new thing?


Termination of employment whether voluntary (with LOR) or involuntary (fired with a stamped letter to indicate termination of employment) amount to the same thing (change of status).

It has always been an option if you are terminated and the boss takes you down to immigration to transfer (and now the D10 as a bridge visa between jobs). A letter of termination does the same thing (cancels the sponsorship by the employer).

Not really a new thing but in the past it usually required the boss to go down rather than just a letter (and when you think of it the LOR is nothing more than a termination letter).

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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re:D10 Visa Reply with quote

John Junior wrote:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=209808

http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?b_id=77&c_id=724&mnu=a02b03&start=1

Ttompatz, you said you posted numerous statements on the D10 Visa, where are they?

They are not on the Dave's link I have attached. Prey do tell, where did you post your enquiries on the D10?


click search
Search for Keywords: d10
Search for Author: ttompatz
Forum: job related discussion forum.

returns 75 posts. The ones from Dec 2011 onward are relevant.

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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read your posts so mostly know about it. But have one question not answered. WHen on a D10, do you have to stay in the country for 6 months or can you go home for 2 or 3 weeks to visit family and then come back to look for a job? I'm guessing not....
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LindaYee



Joined: 15 Dec 2011
Location: Jinhae-gu, Changwon-si, Gyeongsangnam-do

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Troglodyte
From my own brand new experience of being fired (not for financial reasons) Immigration were happy to accept the Letter of Dismissal, which would effectively cancel my visa with that school, enabling them to process my D10 - if the hagwon owner had typed the Letter of Dismissal on their own letterhead and/or put the company stamp on it (which she didn't, just to be difficult). Immigration then had to wait until she chose to cancel my visa.
She had 14 days to cancel my visa with immigration. She took the whole 14 days. Once done, Immigration processed my D10.
To Weigookin74
I've been told leaving the country whilst on a D10 visa is not allowed and can cause problems when it comes time to transfer back to an E2 (this told to me by a recruiter).
Someone else might now what that problem could be.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
I have read your posts so mostly know about it. But have one question not answered. WHen on a D10, do you have to stay in the country for 6 months or can you go home for 2 or 3 weeks to visit family and then come back to look for a job? I'm guessing not....


I have NO FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE ... BUT...

ALL registered foreigners are allowed to go and return within their allowed period of sojourn under the new rules that did away with re-entry permits.

I would say, and anyone with a D10 should be able to confirm, that AFTER you get your new ARC you are free to leave briefly and return to continue looking for work.

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cincynate



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just applied for my D-10. According to the immigration official last week, you are free to leave the country for no more than 30 days. Once you pass the 30 day mark, you are required to submit a new background check.
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