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E-2 Discrimination?

 
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D. Darko



Joined: 27 May 2012

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: E-2 Discrimination? Reply with quote

So, I was going to apply for an intensive corporate gig. The pay is very good and I have intensive course experience. But, sorry Mr. E-2, you are not welcome to teach! WTF?

I've noticed that many of the higher paying jobs are now offered exclusively to F-series holders. I've been out of the country for several years but am considering a return to the ROK. Can anyone fill me in on why it is that a full time corporate gig would exclude E-2 holders? Will I have to now marry a Korean to get a high paying gig? Cheers...
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just don't want to have to deal with all the hassles associated with

sponsoring E-2 visas. F visas are more or less independent and the company doesn't have to worry about sponsorship.

A lot of universities have this attitude as well.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: E-2 Discrimination? Reply with quote

D. Darko wrote:
So, I was going to apply for an intensive corporate gig. The pay is very good and I have intensive course experience. But, sorry Mr. E-2, you are not welcome to teach! WTF?

I've noticed that many of the higher paying jobs are now offered exclusively to F-series holders. I've been out of the country for several years but am considering a return to the ROK. Can anyone fill me in on why it is that a full time corporate gig would exclude E-2 holders? Will I have to now marry a Korean to get a high paying gig? Cheers...


The company may not want to deal with the sponsorship issue or may not be allowed to employ a foreigner in that job (hasn't jumped through the hoops to show that a Korean national / resident (f-visa) can't do the job.

It is no different than your home country. If an employer wants to hire a foreigner they must show that there is no-one who is legally resident that is qualified to do the job before they are allowed to import an employee.

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nick70100



Joined: 09 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only licensed educational institutions (schools, hagwons, universities, etc) can legally sponsor an E-2. An average corporation simply can't do it. There are some exceptions if the company is able to license a separate employee training center (and some big companies do this), but in most cases it's not worth the hassle, especially if there is no shortage of qualified applicants with F visas.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporate gigs are usually E7 (Designated activities (특정활동)) and not E2 (Instructor of foreign languages).

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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the OP got their answer.

Also note, OP, you don't have to marry a Korean to get an F visa.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. I didn't.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=195665

As long as you're under 40, anyone here who's qualified for an E-2 can get an F-2-7 as long as they're willing to put in the work to learn some Korean, take integration classes, and maybe do 20 hours of volunteer work.
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D. Darko



Joined: 27 May 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess things have changed because I taught at both LG Electronics and Samsung on E-2s. But, that was some time ago and I actually was employed through recruiting agencies in each case. The position to which I refer, based upon the description of the job, is the same Samsung job I taught at in 2005. Anyway, thanks for the responses to all.

nick70100 wrote:
Only licensed educational institutions (schools, hagwons, universities, etc) can legally sponsor an E-2. An average corporation simply can't do it. There are some exceptions if the company is able to license a separate employee training center (and some big companies do this), but in most cases it's not worth the hassle, especially if there is no shortage of qualified applicants with F visas.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Indeed. I didn't.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=195665

As long as you're under 40, anyone here who's qualified for an E-2 can get an F-2-7 as long as they're willing to put in the work to learn some Korean, take integration classes, and maybe do 20 hours of volunteer work.




Laughing


I was over 40 when I first went to Korea. Guess I'm out.
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