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having original apostille diploma/degree returned

 
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alphalfa



Joined: 12 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: having original apostille diploma/degree returned Reply with quote

A former colleague with whom I worked with at a teacher training center in Inchon will complete his contract in the coming days. This individual has directed his request, to have his original apostille diploma/degree returned, to Sara Hyun at the Inchon Office of Education. Sara Hyun has refused to abide by his request - instead, telling him that she can give him a copy of the original apostille diploma/degree. My colleague is livid. He thinks it's backward thinking - IMOE can keep any copy of the original apostille diploma/degree of his they care to have. My colleague is not renewing with IMOE and thus he feels IMOE must simply return the original apostille diploma/degree to him, as he has requested.

Is my former colleague in the wrong for requesting, from Sara Hyun at IMOE, to have the original apostille diploma/degree returned to him?

I think not. It appears the 'common sense train' failed to make a stop at IMOE.

Help my colleague make sense of the situation he finds himself in.
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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: having original apostille diploma/degree returned Reply with quote

alphalfa wrote:
A former colleague with whom I worked with at a teacher training center in Inchon will complete his contract in the coming days. This individual has directed his request, to have his original apostille diploma/degree returned, to Sara Hyun at the Inchon Office of Education. Sara Hyun has refused to abide by his request - instead, telling him that she can give him a copy of the original apostille diploma/degree. My colleague is livid. He thinks it's backward thinking - IMOE can keep any copy of the original apostille diploma/degree of his they care to have. My colleague is not renewing with IMOE and thus he feels IMOE must simply return the original apostille diploma/degree to him, as he has requested.

Is my former colleague in the wrong for requesting, from Sara Hyun at IMOE, to have the original apostille diploma/degree returned to him?

I think not. It appears the 'common sense train' failed to make a stop at IMOE.

Help my colleague make sense of the situation he finds himself in.


Did your "colleague" actually provide an original degree with apostille? I thought they would only accept a copy of the original degree with an apostille, in which case your friend should still have the original somewhere.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: having original apostille diploma/degree returned Reply with quote

alphalfa wrote:
A former colleague with whom I worked with at a teacher training center in Inchon will complete his contract in the coming days. This individual has directed his request, to have his original apostille diploma/degree returned, to Sara Hyun at the Inchon Office of Education. Sara Hyun has refused to abide by his request - instead, telling him that she can give him a copy of the original apostille diploma/degree. My colleague is livid. He thinks it's backward thinking - IMOE can keep any copy of the original apostille diploma/degree of his they care to have. My colleague is not renewing with IMOE and thus he feels IMOE must simply return the original apostille diploma/degree to him, as he has requested.

Is my former colleague in the wrong for requesting, from Sara Hyun at IMOE, to have the original apostille diploma/degree returned to him?

I think not. It appears the 'common sense train' failed to make a stop at IMOE.

Help my colleague make sense of the situation he finds himself in.


IMOE doesn't return documents, and Sera is well known for being horribly rude to NETS in Incheon. Your friend shouldn't have given his original degree. He'll have to get a new copy from his university. He should get a few (they can range from as little as $30 to as much as $150) and have several of them apostilled, as they are not time sensitive, and can be used indefinitely.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not just the IMOE.
This ISN'T home.

ANY and ALL documents submitted to the government as part of the immigration/visa/MOE registration process will NOT be returned.

If he used his original parchment then order a replacement from his uni.
The one he submitted for his NOA/visa confirmation is GONE.

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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
It is not just the IMOE.
This ISN'T home.

ANY and ALL documents submitted to the government as part of the immigration/visa/MOE registration process will NOT be returned.

If he used his original parchment then order a replacement from his uni.
The one he submitted for his NOA/visa confirmation is GONE.

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That's all fine and dandy, but some universities will only produce one replacement diploma and then never more.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then he should have followed directions instead of doing it the "easy/cheaper" route and used a certified true copy rather than the original of his parchment.

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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: having original apostille diploma/degree returned Reply with quote

alphalfa wrote:
A former colleague with whom I worked with at a teacher training center in Inchon will complete his contract in the coming days. This individual has directed his request, to have his original apostille diploma/degree returned, to Sara Hyun at the Inchon Office of Education. Sara Hyun has refused to abide by his request - instead, telling him that she can give him a copy of the original apostille diploma/degree. My colleague is livid. He thinks it's backward thinking - IMOE can keep any copy of the original apostille diploma/degree of his they care to have. My colleague is not renewing with IMOE and thus he feels IMOE must simply return the original apostille diploma/degree to him, as he has requested.

Is my former colleague in the wrong for requesting, from Sara Hyun at IMOE, to have the original apostille diploma/degree returned to him?

I think not. It appears the 'common sense train' failed to make a stop at IMOE.

Help my colleague make sense of the situation he finds himself in.


It appears your colleague fell off the 'common sense train' a long time ago.

Your friend is clueless. The IMOE can't provide the originals because the documents are stored at immigration. Immigration will only provide copies of the documents. Your friend can go to immigration and ask for the documents back, the IMOE has nothing to do with the originals, but they can request copies from immi and they offered to do so for your friend.

Your friend SHOULD HAVE submitted a notarized copy, instead of the original. He only has himself to blame.

Luckily, if your friend is looking for another job in Korea, immi won't request a new copy of the degree since they have one on file. His best chance is to ask his university for a new one.
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fromafar



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: having original apostille diploma/degree returned Reply with quote

Wildbore wrote:
alphalfa wrote:
A former colleague with whom I worked with at a teacher training center in Inchon will complete his contract in the coming days. This individual has directed his request, to have his original apostille diploma/degree returned, to Sara Hyun at the Inchon Office of Education. Sara Hyun has refused to abide by his request - instead, telling him that she can give him a copy of the original apostille diploma/degree. My colleague is livid. He thinks it's backward thinking - IMOE can keep any copy of the original apostille diploma/degree of his they care to have. My colleague is not renewing with IMOE and thus he feels IMOE must simply return the original apostille diploma/degree to him, as he has requested.

Is my former colleague in the wrong for requesting, from Sara Hyun at IMOE, to have the original apostille diploma/degree returned to him?

I think not. It appears the 'common sense train' failed to make a stop at IMOE.

Help my colleague make sense of the situation he finds himself in.


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Your friend SHOULD HAVE submitted a notarized copy, instead of the original. He only has himself to blame.



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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Then he should have followed directions instead of doing it the "easy/cheaper" route and used a certified true copy rather than the original of his parchment.

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I'm not disputing that. Just pointing out that diplomas aren't easily replaceable, which is something to consider if you need to have your degrees and qualifications earned abroad reviewed for equivalency in your home country (some services ask for the original documents, while others accept colour photocopies).
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