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pero1986



Joined: 29 May 2012

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Not a native speaker, but still want to teach in Korea Reply with quote

I have lived in the US since the beginning of 9th grade, I have a citizenship, and my English is absolutely flawless, with no hint of any accent... I think that I should be able to teach English abroad, will this hold me back from teaching in Korea, and are there any steps I can take to circumvent this problem?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rules state that you must have been in an English speaking country since the seventh grade and have graduated from an English speaking university there. But, I recall ever being asked for my school records. Just my proof of a 4 year degree. So, you can make your own decisions.
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comm



Joined: 22 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
The rules state that you must have been in an English speaking country since the seventh grade and have graduated from an English speaking university there. But, I recall ever being asked for my school records. Just my proof of a 4 year degree. So, you can make your own decisions.

Give it a shot imo. Korea is an "ask forgiveness, not permission" society. If they don't ask when you started school in the U.S., don't tell them. Odds are they won't ask Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US passport, US degree and a US high school graduation certificate and no-one will ask about your being or not being a native speaker unless you open your mouth and say something.

If you say nothing you are fine.
If you do say something then you may well end your chance.
Don't confuse them with too many options. KISS.

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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: Not a native speaker, but still want to teach in Korea Reply with quote

pero1986 wrote:
I have lived in the US since the beginning of 9th grade, I have a citizenship, and my English is absolutely flawless, with no hint of any accent... I think that I should be able to teach English abroad, will this hold me back from teaching in Korea, and are there any steps I can take to circumvent this problem?



your English is not flawless as has been pointed out, and you could stand a bit of editing when it comes to sentence construction. fortunately for you tho it's easily as good as most of the teachers here and probably better than some Very Happy
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
US passport, US degree and a US high school graduation certificate and no-one will ask about your being or not being a native speaker unless you open your mouth and say something.

If you say nothing you are fine.
If you do say something then you may well end your chance.
Don't confuse them with too many options. KISS.

.


Honest question, what is the likelihood of even needing the high school graduation certificate?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
US passport, US degree and a US high school graduation certificate and no-one will ask about your being or not being a native speaker unless you open your mouth and say something.

If you say nothing you are fine.
If you do say something then you may well end your chance.
Don't confuse them with too many options. KISS.

.


Honest question, what is the likelihood of even needing the high school graduation certificate?


About a 5% chance.

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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
US passport, US degree and a US high school graduation certificate and no-one will ask about your being or not being a native speaker unless you open your mouth and say something.

If you say nothing you are fine.
If you do say something then you may well end your chance.
Don't confuse them with too many options. KISS.

.


Excellent, How would they know? They already have way too many other things to check besides checking into your High School past.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Not a native speaker, but still want to teach in Korea Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:
pero1986 wrote:
I have lived in the US since the beginning of 9th grade, I have a citizenship, and my English is absolutely flawless, with no hint of any accent... I think that I should be able to teach English abroad, will this hold me back from teaching in Korea, and are there any steps I can take to circumvent this problem?



your English is not flawless as has been pointed out, and you could stand a bit of editing when it comes to sentence construction. fortunately for you tho it's easily as good as most of the teachers here and probably better than some Very Happy


Err you can't really criticize someone's English when you're throwing out "tho" and not capitalizing or using much in the way of punctuation.

Not jumping down your throat. It just seems trivial to criticize someone's written English on a message board, especially something like an unnecessary article.

pero1986: Sounds like you might just be golden based on the advice in this thread. Good luck!
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Not a native speaker, but still want to teach in Korea Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
luckylady wrote:
pero1986 wrote:
I have lived in the US since the beginning of 9th grade, I have a citizenship, and my English is absolutely flawless, with no hint of any accent... I think that I should be able to teach English abroad, will this hold me back from teaching in Korea, and are there any steps I can take to circumvent this problem?



your English is not flawless as has been pointed out, and you could stand a bit of editing when it comes to sentence construction. fortunately for you tho it's easily as good as most of the teachers here and probably better than some Very Happy


Err you can't really criticize someone's English when you're throwing out "tho" and not capitalizing or using much in the way of punctuation.

Not jumping down your throat. It just seems trivial to criticize someone's written English on a message board, especially something like an unnecessary article.


let's see if I understand you - if someone says they are perfect and does so in such a way that demonstrates they are anything but, that's ok!

on the other hand, if someone points out the imperfection in an easygoing manner, just to let them know they aren't perfect, that's not ok! I'm the one in the wrong?

wow what reality do you live in anyway.... Shocked
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Not a native speaker, but still want to teach in Korea Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:
on the other hand, if someone points out the imperfection in an easygoing manner, just to let them know they aren't perfect, that's not ok! I'm the one in the wrong?


I didn't say you were in the wrong. I said it was a trivial issue.
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Not a native speaker, but still want to teach in Korea Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
luckylady wrote:
on the other hand, if someone points out the imperfection in an easygoing manner, just to let them know they aren't perfect, that's not ok! I'm the one in the wrong?


I didn't say you were in the wrong. I said it was a trivial issue.


semantics. please. Rolling Eyes
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ogodines



Joined: 07 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same question as you and I researched a bit. They most likely will not ask you how long you've been in the US, if you don't point it out. . Let me know how your application process goes; if it is a problem or not, I will be going through it in a year.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ogodines wrote:
I had the same question as you and I researched a bit. They most likely will not ask you how long you've been in the US, if you don't point it out. . Let me know how your application process goes; if it is a problem or not, I will be going through it in a year.


They look at your passport and your degree. That's it. They don't ask about your high school. At least, immigration doesn't.
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ogodines



Joined: 07 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
ogodines wrote:
I had the same question as you and I researched a bit. They most likely will not ask you how long you've been in the US, if you don't point it out. . Let me know how your application process goes; if it is a problem or not, I will be going through it in a year.


They look at your passport and your degree. That's it. They don't ask about your high school. At least, immigration doesn't.


Thank you very much.
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