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Why isn't skateboarding popular in Korea?
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createasaurus21



Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Why isn't skateboarding popular in Korea? Reply with quote

Just about every other action sport is popular here: snowboarding, mountain biking, windsurfing, kiteboarding, bmx, in-line skating ... but in the past three years I've lived here, I've only seen maybe two skateboarders during that time, and one was a foreigner.

And they have several parks too along the Han River in Seoul but I've only seen in-line skaters and razor-riding kids there.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually bought a skateboard here, about eight years ago. I'd skate with a buddy of mine, and the Koreans would think it was so strange that two grown men would be using a children's toy at 10pm. Lol Smile

Besides that, the sidewalks are garbage here. Uneven bricks cemented together, that are dangerous enough to walk on, and impossible to skate on. Take the "mode of transportation" aspect out of skating, and it's much less of a draw.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skateboards are considered children's toys.

Also, there are no famous Korean skaters. I bet you if a Korean won the X-Games then you'd see more skateboarders here.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young people don't have the time or energy? You have to put in a lot of work to pull off even basic tricks

The climate isn't bad for it though. Surfaces are rarely frosty, wet or even damp.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if it is still there (imagine it is), but there was a small skate park along the Han near Ttukseom station I believe. I used to watch kids ripping it up there when I would bike along the trail.

Took these photos a couple of years ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7151587@N04/
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to say the exact reason but I'll throw out a few possible ones...

1. it's a solo sport you often do alone
2. you can easily get hurt
3. you fall down a lot (oh no, dirty!)
4. it's creative and open ended with varied styles and tricks
5. it has no defined rules or point system
6. it's aggressive/dangerous/wild
7. it's not glamourous
8. they are more into rollerblading (with full pads, etc.)
9. it's not really seen as a true sport
10. it's fashionable but only in an underground cutting edge way
11. it's loud, fast and unpredictable
12. They put hard rules on behaviors for certain age groups (and it's still seen as a kid's sport here)
13. There hasn't been a Korean skateboard star yet (Daewon Song is American)
14. Skateboarding is not truly mainstream anywhere (except maybe California)
15. For a huge city, ironically there are not that many good spots to do it here
16. The skateparks here are pretty terrible compared to almost everywhere else and are seen as playgrounds, which is true; there are always little kids running all over them

There are some very good skaters here, but nowhere near as many as what you would expect in a city the size of Seoul. And they tend to be the types that just don't care what others think of them. Let's be honest, that's not exactly the most common Korean trait is it?

In other words it tends to be the people who just love the sport and aren't fashion slaves or out to impress everyone. And unlike back home (esp. California) where if you are a good skater you get chicks, here the chicks run from it and it's just not looked on as cool at all.

Also the forced military service kind of puts a cramp in the skating lifestyle, taking away some of the best years for doing it (the young adult years). And once you quit for two years, it's hard to get back into it.


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deizio



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to skate at the "X-Games" park when I lived in Suwon (really nice skatepark, north Suwon at Manseok Park, no idea if it's still there) in 2004 and there were loads of Koreans skateboarding there then. When I came back to Korea to live in Seoul in '07 I went to the little park at Ttukseom a couple of times with no other skateboarders to be seen, although it's not exactly an exciting place to skate. Haven't been out on the board in a few years so no idea what the scene is like now.

Totally agree with the mode of transport comment, I used the board to get around town loads back home in the UK and other places, but it's pretty much a non-starter here.
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crazy_arcade



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just an underground scene...a fair number of skaters that you can meet at any given park in Seoul (there's gotta be at least 20-25 skateparks within Gyeonggi/Incheon/Seoul alone. A lot of people on the preriphery of skateboarding that are interested in the clothes and stuff but don't actually do it.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Skateboards are considered children's toys.


That always bugged me. Things that are considered to be just for children here:

-Skateboarding
-Cereal
-Video/Computer games

Things considered adult:

-Living with your mother and letting her do everything for you until you're 35
-Watching kids movies as an adult (The Lion King, Transformers etc.) while saying adult movies are "not funny"
-Bubblegum music (K-pop)
-Adult women acting like 13 year old girls

Another huge reason skateboarding may have never caught on here is because the sidewalks are crap and doing it on the street would be deadly. Bicycling is also extremely rare here. I remember someone asking me about where they can get a good bike and I just assumed they meant a motorcycle as I hardly know anyone with a bicycle...

On a side note, a city called Jukjeon (near Yongin) has a nice skatepark. So does Pyeonchon (I've only seen Elementary kids there though).
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byrddogs



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:
Bicycling is also extremely rare here. I remember someone asking me about where they can get a good bike and I just assumed they meant a motorcycle as I hardly know anyone with a bicycle...


Cycling is rare? Maybe things have changed in the last few years, but I recall it being a big time thing in Seoul. There would always be the hoards of "tour de whatever" dudes in packs riding along the the Han decked out in full gear riding expensive as hell mtbs. Why they bought mtbs and rode the Han paved trail was always a mystery to me. I did the same, but only as a leisurely activity (took to the single-track often to use my bikes for what they were meant for).
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myenglishisno



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
myenglishisno wrote:
Bicycling is also extremely rare here. I remember someone asking me about where they can get a good bike and I just assumed they meant a motorcycle as I hardly know anyone with a bicycle...


Cycling is rare? Maybe things have changed in the last few years, but I recall it being a big time thing in Seoul. There would always be the hoards of "tour de whatever" dudes in packs riding along the the Han decked out in full gear riding expensive as hell mtbs. Why they bought mtbs and rode the Han paved trail was always a mystery to me. I did the same, but only as a leisurely activity (took to the single-track often to use my bikes for what they were meant for).


I rarely see cycling outside of an organized event. Maybe it's because I spent time in Japan and I saw too many bicycles there, Korea in general doesn't seem that bicycle friendly to me and I rarely see people cycling (or running for that matter).

It is getting better though. In newly developed areas, there are biking trails galore.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:

4. it's creative and open ended with varied styles and tricks

You'd be amazed at Koreans' ability to take something that seems to require creativity and systematically break it down into components. Think opinion essays, LEGO hagwans (!) and breakdancing hagwans (I seem to remember a student telling me he went to a graffiti hagwan, but I must have been mistaken).

Mix1 wrote:

7. it's not glamourous

Be careful using that word -- Koreans use the word "glamourous" exclusively as a synonym of "amply bosomed". I kid you not.
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Oldschoolskater



Joined: 06 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brought 6 decks here for myself and my three year old daughter. I was sponsored by the local shop as a kid and during my time here hope to get a few tricks happening again on the local ramp here in bundang.
Just like everyone has said though, I have been asked why am I skating as it is just for children.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to suggest Korea is quite hilly but then that shouldn't be a problem in towns and cities

myenglishisno wrote:


That always bugged me. Things that are considered to be just for children here:

-Skateboarding
-Cereal
-Video/Computer games

Things considered adult:

-Living with your mother and letting her do everything for you until you're 35
-Watching kids movies as an adult (The Lion King, Transformers etc.) while saying adult movies are "not funny"
-Bubblegum music (K-pop)
-Adult women acting like 13 year old girls

Another huge reason skateboarding may have never caught on here is because the sidewalks are crap and doing it on the street would be deadly. Bicycling is also extremely rare here. I remember someone asking me about where they can get a good bike and I just assumed they meant a motorcycle as I hardly know anyone with a bicycle...

On a side note, a city called Jukjeon (near Yongin) has a nice skatepark. So does Pyeonchon (I've only seen Elementary kids there though).


Laughing

I used to think there was something wrong with my old CT for having a pop song as her ringtone, before realising most teachers listen to kids' pop music too
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Boxer wrote:
Mix1 wrote:

4. it's creative and open ended with varied styles and tricks

You'd be amazed at Koreans' ability to take something that seems to require creativity and systematically break it down into components. Think opinion essays, LEGO hagwans (!) and breakdancing hagwans (I seem to remember a student telling me he went to a graffiti hagwan, but I must have been mistaken).

Mix1 wrote:

7. it's not glamourous

Be careful using that word -- Koreans use the word "glamourous" exclusively as a synonym of "amply bosomed". I kid you not.

Haha, I know.

I agree about them breaking things down into components. Many really seem to focus on each part of a trick until they get it right. Nothing wrong with that per se. That's great for certain sports/activities but a bit stifling for others IMO.

I just mean the open ended creative aspect of skateboarding might leave some wondering "what am I supposed to do on this thing?" "What are the rules?" Well, there are none. whatever YOU want to do! Go crazy with it. That won't always appeal to people who may want a very structured, formulated activity with predetermined rules.
(Maybe if they made a point value system for it, it would be more appealing to them. Ollie: 1 point! Kickflip: 5 points! 360 kickflip: 10 points! and skate hagwons with monthly tests...)

Oh yeah, and skateboarding is addictive and time consuming so it would take away from study time! In other words a Korean parent's worst nightmare.
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