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jonski
Joined: 26 Feb 2011
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: adult teaching 1on1 contract review |
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Hi,
been offered a few different contracts for teaching adults 1on1 using a block shift system, 4 hours in the morning and 4 hours at night.
Just wanted to get some info on what the 'norm' is because it seems to be a step down in pay from my first job. Basic salary is 2m with a 0.1m bonus for working a split shift, (Increasing to 0,2m in the 7th month of the contract). 2 Saturdays a month are also required and they pay around 150k a day. There is a potential to further increase your salary through some sort of 'Booking Rate' which is calculated using the amount of tutorials you take over the total amount you could potentially take.
I am extremely keen on the job, the working conditions sound great but it does seem like I will be earning less then my previous job and working longer hours too.
Does anyone have any experience with big schools teaching 1on1? Is this a normal salary?
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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So you get horrible working hours that will turn you into a zombie, required Saturdays, and you get paid less than I did my first year here? What a joke. You'd have to pay me at least 3.5 to work split shifts, 4.0 to work Saturdays. On top of all this greatness, you get to work with adults, who are the most needy and entitled students you can possibly hope for. Anyone who is excited for a trash job like this is insane. I'd take Wonderland over this trash. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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True the hours and pay are awful but 4 hours with badly behaved kids can seem like the equivalent of 8 hours with a good adult class. Yes you need to be on the ball with adults but as long as you prepare properly and know what you're doing they can be a joy to teach. Plus if you're single it will open up all sorts of opportunities. Overall, I'd tend to agree with Gorf and take a kiddy hagwan but only because of the hours. If you can get used to those, overall you'll probably have a better experience. |
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jonski
Joined: 26 Feb 2011
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Gorf wrote: |
So you get horrible working hours that will turn you into a zombie, required Saturdays, and you get paid less than I did my first year here? What a joke. You'd have to pay me at least 3.5 to work split shifts, 4.0 to work Saturdays. On top of all this greatness, you get to work with adults, who are the most needy and entitled students you can possibly hope for. Anyone who is excited for a trash job like this is insane. I'd take Wonderland over this trash. |
I'm sorry If I wasn't clear in my OP but my intention was not to find our your personal opinion on whether or not you would like to work these hours. Seeing as you took the liberty to give me your incredibly personalised view based on your circumstances I shall also give you mine. Having worked at a hagwon for a year I have learnt I prefer teaching in smaller groups. I was lucky enough to experience teaching adults at my previous job even though the bulk of my students were elementary students. I noticed how much better the quality of teaching was and how quickly the time could fly by when teaching smaller groups. I also found that it was far less demanding and behavioural problems were non existent. Teaching children was certainly fun but I personally preferred having a deeper conversation with adults. As you stated quite clearly in your post, for you, the working hours are quite inconvenient. However, for me, I see them as an opportunity to peruse a masters degree, improve my Korean and fit in a busy sports schedule.
Obviously this is completely subjective as people tend to have completely different personal circumstances. What might be great for me, doesn't necessarily mean it will be good for others. My point is that I have decided to take a split shift job for my own reasons and while I appreciate you highlighting the potential problems that may arise, I was trying to find objective information regarding pay conditions for this type of job.
2.1m seems to be a bit low to me but obviously I have limited knowledge of what other schools are offering.Any information on contract 'norm's for working split shifts would be great.
Thanks! |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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If you have more than one year of experience they're lowballing you. Standard big school contracts are more like 2.1 for 6 hours per day for one year of prior experience.
Is there housing included?
What about penalties when a student skips a class? Some of those 1-on-1 places pull stunts related to that.
I would take it if you have 6 teaching hours daily and you just want more experience. As it stands, they've got all these mandatory extras but pay for mandatory work. Sounds weird. |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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2M is quite low, and I'm worried about the booking fees you mentioned... How can you take on more students if your classes are 1:1? Won't you already have a full schedule?
Also, is there a punishment for losing students? If students don't like you or complain, you could be out of a job... What are the conditions for termination/release as stated in your contract?
Also, what is your vacation time? Do sick days/vacation days result in docked pay or termination?
Lastly, do you think they're lowballing you as a first offer? You can always mention your qualifications and experience and ask them why the pay is substantially lower... Are they including housing/airfare? If you are already here and don't need the airfare, they might be willing to take that into consideration when deciding your salary. |
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mike in brasil

Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hey OP, is the company in question either Mavens or Language Cube?
If so, which location? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Do they deduct pay when students don't show up?
You'd better find out before you sign up.
Do they make you stay there 6 - 8 hours a day even if no students show up?
You'd better find out before you sign up.
Just some things I've heard about similar programs. |
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