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randall020105 · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: Classroom management.

OK, so I don't have a problem carrying my weight in a classroom cleaning it if it needs be, etc...

I just need to get your take on this.

this conversational Korean teach (not a real teacher, she's got some unrelated cert.) walks in and looks at the classroom floor and told me that the floor is really dirty...!?!?!

She proceeds to make remarks pointing at why i should clean it, since it's MY classroom...

What would you have done? What are cleaners at the schools for anyways..?

ttompatz · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea

Hand her the mop.. or show/tell her where it is.

In public schools the kids clean the classrooms.

In hagwans... pay me at the overtime rate and I will mop... otherwise hire a cleaner to mop it.

If it just needsa quick broom ... then get it done. no big deal.

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randall020105 · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: i do it.

I do clean. No hassle there. The issue is someone telling me to do it when I am busy with something else and also making it sound like i am some kinda wasteful dirt-bag. she pulls her face like she just saw a garbage dump in my classroom.

Keeper · Joined: 11 Jun 2012

Do you take orders from her? If not then tell her she is talking to the wrong person. If you want to do it semi-nice then, "Yes it is dirty. I teach, I don't clean. What do you do?"

YTMND · Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!

randall020105 · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:25 am Post subject: You see...

You see, the problem with schools in the sticks are that people like this woman tend to throw their weight around since they think their parents know the principle and they ALL grew up together. So what's some foreigner to say to all their demands. Right?
Honestly, I feel like leaving the school and seeking other employ.
Too many bad bitter people here are connected and I feel that the best sometimes would be to cut my losses and look elsewhere...

kimchi_pizza · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:01 am Post subject:

I'm a firm believer in a good, organized and clean learning environment for any and all students. It's up to you. Did she have a point? I don't know.
But if she is ask'n you to 'own' that room, the OWN it! Make it a representation of your native country or mom's living room.
Don't worry about the super, but worry about your students and make it a good atmosphere for your students as well as for yourself.

Personally, I don't shy away from sweep'n, mop'n or wipe'n the white board if it needs it. And I'm a strong, proud man. I do it for my students. 'Nuff said.

randall020105 · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:07 am Post subject: Thanks

Thanks for the humble-pie Kimchi-pizza.

Pearls of wisdom.

I appreciate the heads up there kind sir. You are a scholar and a fine fellow.

R.

kimchi_pizza · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:13 am Post subject:

My absolute pleasure and best'o luck~!

PatrickGHBusan · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:11 am Post subject:

sml7285 · Joined: 26 Apr 2012

PatrickGHBusan · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject:

So bright people who earn a good salary are too good to clean sometimes?

Sorry had to do it.

sml7285 · Joined: 26 Apr 2012

randall020105 · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: It's a matter of HOW

A coworker can ask me to do almost anything... It's how they bring the message across as well as the normal situation being that there IS a cleaner to do her job... Which she's getting paid for... I can't expect the bus driver to teach my classes now, can I...?

I believe SOME ( these brackets are for those trolling around waiting to see what we will say next - only to jump on here and troll the Hell outta this thread ) people here are always charged up to launch some kinda attack to foreigners in this country... Mind games(i think), which I am most willing to anticipate in...

andrewchon · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:10 am Post subject:

At my school (rural elem) the cleaners clean the corredors, toilets and stairs but not the classrooms. Students clean that. Teachers are expected to do additional cleaning if the students' efforts weren't upto the scratch.