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daejeonsv



Joined: 20 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Dog question Reply with quote

I recently found a worm in my dog's stool. Can I go to any vet and ask for dewormer or do I need to take her in? There has only been one and she has no symptoms of being wormy, but where there is one there must be more.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks for your help!
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a bout a 50/50 chance of them giving you a pill. Most vets want to check the stool for other parasites with a stool sample. It's not expensive. If your dog goes to the grass often in the summer make sure you get some kind of flea/tick preventative like Frontline, Advantage, etc... The ticks and fleas can be pretty bad.
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daejeonsv



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks.

She's a puppy, about 4 months old. I've only taken her outside a handful of times since she recently got enough vaccinations to be safe around other dogs. I took her to the vet on Saturday and he didn't say anything about her potentially having them, so we'll see what happens.

Sounds like I need to take her in for the flea treatment anyhow....
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Dazed and Confused



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely take your dog in with a stool sample. Your vet can test it and treat her with the appropriate meds. Tape worms requite one kind of medication while round worms and hook worms require another.
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bojangles



Joined: 19 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: garlic Reply with quote

Garlic.

Chopped fine.

mix it in with something he/she loves.

Avoid the drugs at the vet if possible.

They all have harmful side effects.
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warmachinenkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: garlic Reply with quote

bojangles wrote:
Garlic.

Chopped fine.

mix it in with something he/she loves.

Avoid the drugs at the vet if possible.

They all have harmful side effects.


Don't do this. The amount of garlic that is toxic to a dog isn't known. It damages red blood cells their gastrointestinal system.

Some dogs don't have any trouble others, especially puppies, can have terrible affects.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garlic (and onions) can make dogs anemic. PLEASE don't feed your dog garlic. Take it to the vet and have a stool sample taken, so that the type of worm can be identified, and the proper medication can be administered.
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nero



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thirded. This so-called natural 'cure all' really f-ed up my friend's dog. Don't give your dog onion or garlic!!
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bojangles



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
Take it to the vet and have a stool sample taken, so that the type of worm can be identified, and the proper medication can be administered.


What are the ingredients of that proper medication? Do you even know? My guess is NO. They could be(and most likely are) far more toxic and harmful than ANY natural substance like garlic.
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bojangles



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: garlic Reply with quote

warmachinenkorea wrote:
It damages red blood cells and their gastrointestinal system.


Can you cite a reference for this quote? And please not one that is sponsored by the drug industry, who have everything to lose from simple, natural remedies.
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bojangles



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: real scientific Reply with quote

nero wrote:
Thirded. This so-called natural 'cure all' really f-ed up my friend's dog. Don't give your dog onion or garlic!!


I feel for "your friend's dog" ,...but I'm sceptical that it was a natural ingredient that F'ed him up. Can you provide any more proof than your passionate testimonial?
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bojangles



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: how many Reply with quote

daejeonsv wrote:
since she recently got enough vaccinations to be safe around other dogs.

Sounds like I need to take her in for the flea treatment anyhow....


How many vaccinations is that exactly? What EXACTLY was she injected with? Do you know? My guess is NO. She was most likely safer before the vaccinations.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

bojangles wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
Take it to the vet and have a stool sample taken, so that the type of worm can be identified, and the proper medication can be administered.


What are the ingredients of that proper medication? Do you even know? My guess is NO. They could be(and most likely are) far more toxic and harmful than ANY natural substance like garlic.


Well your guess was wrong. It depends on the worms, and yes, many medicines are dangerous, but it is much better to have the medicine administered in a hospital setting. When my friend's dog got heartworms, it needed to take an arsenic-based medicine. Yes. Arsenic. Did he do it at home, of course not! That pooch stayed in the hospital in Canada, MONITORED by PROFESSIONALS for over a week.

My grandparents' neighbor's dog got roundworms. It was given a pyrantel pamoate suspension, which is also found in pinworm medication. It is one of the safest worm medications out there. The dog was still given the correct dosage by the vet, and was taken in a few times for check ups.

Again, medicines can be very dangerous, but much better to have them administered and monitored by professionals. Advising someone to give their dog something that is often poisonous to dogs is just foolish. If, perhaps, a vet wanted to try garlic, sure, but the garlic would have to be given AT THE VET'S OFFICE and the dog would have to stay for observation.


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warmachinenkorea



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: garlic Reply with quote

bojangles wrote:
warmachinenkorea wrote:
It damages red blood cells and their gastrointestinal system.


Can you cite a reference for this quote? And please not one that is sponsored by the drug industry, who have everything to lose from simple, natural remedies.


Do you have a citation for why garlic is healthy?

I said some dogs take it well and others don't. Have you ever seen a dog that has been feed garlic then had liquid poop or vomiting?

What natural remedy do you have for vomiting and and diarrhea?
What natural remedy do you have for rabies,corona or kennel cough?

We should never get our animals shots huh?
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bojangles



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: what the... Reply with quote

Can't we all just get a bong... I mean...along?

My guess is that we would also disagree on the best medicines for humans as well.

be that as it may, natural remedies for pets, like the one we're discussing, I suspect, will never be touted or commonly believed (even if true) precisely for the same reason that natural remedies for humans will never be touted or commonly believed: the AMA, the FDA, and the big pharmaceutical companies won't allow it. By law. Speaking of America.
These agencies and industries have such a stranglehold on health information and such power and influence that they can make it against the law to make such claims for natural remedies in an advertisement.
That's why you never see or hear an ad or a program on the television or radio, or in a newspaper or magazine, touting the healing benefits of garlic or other natural substances. It would seriously undermine the profit margins of the medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex.

Granted, there comes a time when people and animals alike must surrender to the "medical professionals" for treatment, but it shouldn't be done without questioning the science and efficacy of their treatments, and their drugs. Way too many doctors practice "standardized" medicine,- that is to say, medicine that is lobbied for in Washington by big Pharma, written into legislation by the politicians, approved and enforced by the FDA, and then fully implemented by all AMA practicing physicians, whether it is sound science or not. I'm assuming that this is the way it also works with vets.

This is exactly the case with Vaccines. American children, and pets, are way over-vaccinated. Check the science and follow the money.

My apology to the OP. I was off-topic with my remark. I hope you found the right treatment and that your dog is well!
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