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ghostrider



Joined: 27 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Chinese Complain About Discrimination in Korea Reply with quote

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�I felt discriminated against when employers give bigger pay checks to Korean students when we all do the same part-time work,� said Piao Dongguo, 24, an exchange student at Dongguk University. �I barely have Korean friends because Korean and Chinese students almost never have any interaction. It�s quite frustrating.�

�Some house owners said to my face that they don�t accept Chinese,� said Wang Chanjin, 21, a Chinese student studying at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies since last August. �Koreans also tend to look down on Chinese people. They don�t treat Americans or Japanese in that way, do they?�


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�I barely have any interaction with Koreans besides at the workplace,� said a 31-year-old Chinese woman who has worked at a coffee shop in Garibong-dong since 2010, asking not to be named. �I feel Koreans only want to use Chinese to earn money. I cannot feel any sincerity in the way they treat Chinese people.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/08/116_117944.html

I think a lot of foreign teachers who work in hagwons feel exploited too. Maybe it's time for Korea to pass a civil rights act.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just see it as market forces at work.

* Chinese come here to make more money.
* Koreans hire Chinese to pay less money.
* Koreans hire Westerners to give their business legitimacy.
* Westerners come here to (deleted so my post doesn't get banned).

That doesn't mean they specifically want to know these people, it's just a mutually beneficial business arrangement. If the counterparty doesn't find it beneficial they can always leave and go back home.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vous �te une Friedman-ist. Salute la libert� du choix!
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Gorf



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having seen Korean adults make fun of Chinese people by doing the slanty eyes thing with their fingers, I can say that it is probably telling of the lack of cultural respect or understanding that Korea has that causes them to act this way. They're just xenophobic, and not even classy enough to at least fake that they're accepting of diversity.
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DejaVu



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Chinese Complain About Discrimination in Korea Reply with quote

I only know a few Koreans with Chinese friends but they are considered outcasts in Korea.

The Japanese embassy is now warning its citizens to cancel trips to Korea due to burning things at the consulates, throwing dirt, etc.

This is all so tiring.

I'm so happy I'm white in this country...
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Chinese Complain About Discrimination in Korea Reply with quote

DejaVu wrote:
I only know a few Koreans with Chinese friends but they are considered outcasts in Korea.

The Japanese embassy is now warning its citizens to cancel trips to Korea due to burning things at the consulates, throwing dirt, etc.

This is all so tiring.

I'm so happy I'm white in this country...

We're next in line after the other Asians in this country. What are you thinking?
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I feel Koreans only want to use Chinese to earn money. I cannot feel any sincerity in the way they treat Chinese people.�


Sometimes Korea is like that spoiled little rich kid- an only child- who never learned how to socialise or relate to others.
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Unposter



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A properly worded civil rights act (for Korea) is not a bad idea if it can be done.

If two people are doing the same job but receiving different pay from the same employer and the only reason is ethnicity, I would say that is a preatty legitimate complaint.

A lack of socialization, to me, is not a legitimate complaint. When people are friends, they are friends; you cannot legislate that. Though, I guess it could be discussed in the media.

You shouldn't just say it is market forces. Market forces by their very nature are not human. It takes humans to make the effects of market forces human.

Believe it or not, Korea has already come a long way in terms of embracing the fact that they are becoming a multi-cultural society. Does it have some ways to go? From my perspective, yes, but also from my perspective it is moving in the right direction. These things take time. The fact that Koreans are openly talking about these issues is a sign of how far they have come.

And, the West is no paragon of virtue. It has been a long history of cultural conflict and people are still a little uncertain of what we really should do. I am sure most, if not all, of us have at one time had bad thoughts about people who are different than us. We still need an orderly and fair society. So, we need laws to reflect this need. If Koreans haven't already gotten there, they will.

Koreans, deep down, are human beings, the same as the rest of us. They may have had a different history and different experiences than you and me, but they really are no different.

It only takes one Romeo and Juliet to start the ball rolling but soon most people will realize it really ain't no big thing.
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans look down on Chinese for 2000 years of tyrany and subjugation by the Chinese. Every year Korea had to send men (women) and materials to China. China didn't need any but demanded tribute anyway. Then they sent back Chinese 'culture' as gift. Does this remind you of Soviet Union and its Eastern European satelites? Stalin demonstrated the principle this way. He got a chicken and plucked out all its feathers. Did the chicken run away? No, it cowered by Stalin's feet. That's what China's been doing for 2000 years to Korea. It'll tak more than a legislation for Korea to change their opinion of the Chinese.
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is what the Chinese drink delivery lady was asking me about in the elevator this morning, something about comparing Koreans and Chinese people. I just mumbled something in my awful Korean about not having met many Chinese people and waited for the first floor to come.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Koreans look down on Chinese for 2000 years of tyrany and subjugation by the Chinese. Every year Korea had to send men (women) and materials to China. China didn't need any but demanded tribute anyway. Then they sent back Chinese 'culture' as gift. Does this remind you of Soviet Union and its Eastern European satelites? Stalin demonstrated the principle this way. He got a chicken and plucked out all its feathers. Did the chicken run away? No, it cowered by Stalin's feet. That's what China's been doing for 2000 years to Korea. It'll tak more than a legislation for Korea to change their opinion of the Chinese.


Yes let's mistreat people for what their ancestors have done!
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DejaVu



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Chinese Complain About Discrimination in Korea Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
DejaVu wrote:
I only know a few Koreans with Chinese friends but they are considered outcasts in Korea.

The Japanese embassy is now warning its citizens to cancel trips to Korea due to burning things at the consulates, throwing dirt, etc.

This is all so tiring.

I'm so happy I'm white in this country...

We're next in line after the other Asians in this country. What are you thinking?


Next in line... after Africans, Hispanics, Inuit, etc. Being last in line of racism is as good as it can get here.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Koreans look down on Chinese for 2000 years of tyrany and subjugation by the Chinese. Every year Korea had to send men (women) and materials to China. China didn't need any but demanded tribute anyway. Then they sent back Chinese 'culture' as gift. Does this remind you of Soviet Union and its Eastern European satelites? Stalin demonstrated the principle this way. He got a chicken and plucked out all its feathers. Did the chicken run away? No, it cowered by Stalin's feet. That's what China's been doing for 2000 years to Korea. It'll tak more than a legislation for Korea to change their opinion of the Chinese.


My understanding is they recieved more from China than they gave. Also the Soviets gave more to the Eastern satellite countries than they recieved.
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Koreans look down on Chinese for 2000 years of tyrany and subjugation by the Chinese. Every year Korea had to send men (women) and materials to China. China didn't need any but demanded tribute anyway. Then they sent back Chinese 'culture' as gift. Does this remind you of Soviet Union and its Eastern European satelites? Stalin demonstrated the principle this way. He got a chicken and plucked out all its feathers. Did the chicken run away? No, it cowered by Stalin's feet. That's what China's been doing for 2000 years to Korea. It'll tak more than a legislation for Korea to change their opinion of the Chinese.


Yes let's mistreat people for what their ancestors have done!

Actually, most Chinese migrants here have Korean ancestry. So it's not really a case of people being mistreated because of what their ancestors have done.
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figshdg



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kepler wrote:

Actually, most Chinese migrants here have Korean ancestry.


Really? I have my doubts about most Chinese migrants having Korean ancestry. The ones on F visas aren't really migrants.....
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