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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: bikers... Reply with quote

What exactly is the lowddown on driving a bike outside of the city? Could I, for example, drive to Ansan from Seoul- passing through the toll booth? Could one cross the han river bridge? What are the rules?
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is really only one rule, and it is heavily enforced.

No bicycles or motorcycles on the toll roads.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, JacktheCat is pretty much right. You can get away with a lot on a motorcycle (as long as you're not blatant about it), but you're not allowed on the national highways. Aside from that, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from driving pretty much anywhere else (including sidewalks) except for an ornery cop or an accident. What you should do is buy a road map and find the major, non-toll routes between Seoul and Ansan, or you can always wing it and just follow signs from one area to the next until you get to Ansan. It will be a much longer travel time, though, in general, so keep that in mind. I used to drive between Cheonan and Suwon pretty regularly, and there was no way that I could get the trip any shorter than 90 minutes, whereas a bus would have me there in an hour.
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THAT is what I wanted to hear- that there are back roads. Believe it or not, where I came from if you wanted to get off the main road, you had to take the bush. Thansk alot, brothers
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's an English Atlas of Korea in Kyobo books at Kwangwhamun for 20,000....
Yeah not being allowed on the autobahns or toll roads has the benefit of slower, curvy, more scenic routes/secondary highways...
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I like taking the looong, scenic route.

There are so many places up in the mountains and along the seashore that you miss out on if you don't have a motorbike or car.


Nothing better than riding your motorcycle along the ocean during a warm summers day.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
THAT is what I wanted to hear- that there are back roads. Believe it or not, where I came from if you wanted to get off the main road, you had to take the bush. Thansk alot, brothers


Yea, just make sure when you cross the Han that you don't get on the Highway 1 road. Everything else is kosher, except for the tollways.
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Demonicat wrote:
THAT is what I wanted to hear- that there are back roads. Believe it or not, where I came from if you wanted to get off the main road, you had to take the bush. Thansk alot, brothers


Yea, just make sure when you cross the Han that you don't get on the Highway 1 road. Everything else is kosher, except for the tollways.


Everything else is kosher?! C'mon mate, riding in downtown Seoul bites the big one...I did it (riding, not biting!) one too many times. I felt SO sick after riding through Seoul..all the narsty exhaust. Bugger that.

If I ever rode up (from Asan/Cheonan) we took HWY 1 from Osan to the subway station (remember, I am Stateside now, and don't have a map handy) that was in front of the Seoul Horse Track (?)...'kyeong ma jang' The area is nice enough and discreet enough to keep your bike from being tampered with ('cause there's nothing around for people to be loitering).

No more Seoul rides!


!Shoosh

Ryst
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kosher as in "you can get away with it".

But I've never ridden a motorcycle through Seoul, and the driving itself is insane enough to tell me that it should stay that way.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul motorbike driving is so dangerous. Pusan's pretty bad but nowhere near. The thing is, for me, myopic car drivers who decide to brake, slow, and stop with ample space between them and the car ahead. They make a sense of space for themselves. And almost running into the back end of their car. Because they aren't going with the flow of the lanes to either side. They do something unnatural like that.
Are there any bikers here who are into dirt kind of bikes, country roads, going off the highway? What's a recommended, common model available in Korea (along with parts), do you know? 600, 700cc....
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DirtySanchez



Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about dirtbikes myself. although I rented a honda in the philippines for off-roading, and had a blast, aside from a couple close calls (slipping and almost dropping/crashing).

My question is, has anyone ever gotten caught for driving without a plate or liscence or registration? If so, when and where? What was the penalty? If not, what are the chances one would get caught?
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about anything around Seoul,

But there is quite a big dirt bike scene in Gangwando, near Sokcho and Gangneung. Went to a few of the races. Pretty cool and well set up. If you're interested, I'm sure any bike shop will be able to give you details about dirt bike opportunities in your area.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a motocross scene in Japan - that I do know - but not sure about Korea.

Thailand and Philippines also have motocross races and they have actually been on Asian ESPN/Star Sports.

I often rent trail bikes on Ko Pha Ngan, Thai. and ride without license - don't drive drunk, though, that's how a lot of foreigners get greased.

But Japan is the only country in the region that I know of with a serious motocross scene.

I rode and drank beer with guys on the weekends who were R&D riders for Honda. They were riding bikes that even U.S. and European factory team riders don't get to ride.
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