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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Gangnam District PS job questions Reply with quote

Hi all,

I've searched the forums but all I come up with is 2 year old threads. I'm about to sign with GDOE to teach elementary school and I just have a couple of questions about conditions.

The two year old threads mention 6 weeks of vacation, but my contract is only for 4 (20 days). Is this standard now, or am I being fleeced?

As an in country new hire, how does the airfare work? The contract is a little ambiguous. I'm going to email the liaison about it before I sign, but I'd like to hear others' experiences. I think it says I get 700,000 won or a one-way ticket home when I complete my contract, but it's not clear if it applies only to out-of-country new-hires.

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f. Airfare: For instructors hired from overseas your one-way ticket (economy airfare) from your permanent residence or from the point of departure to Seoul, Korea, will be provided by the Employer. In order to get the airfare reimbursed, the Instructor must submit the original airplane ticket and the receipt for the payment of airfare from the travel agency to the School. The maximum amount that will be reimbursed is 1.5million won.

If the Instructor fails to fulfill the conditions of the contract, airfare must be repaid by the Instructor. In case of the termination of this contract within six (6) months, the Instructor must immediately pay back 100% of the one-way airfare or round trip visa airfare to the School. If the Instructor works more than six (6) months during the term of employment, the Instructor�s obligation to pay back the airfare will be waived.

Upon faithful completion of your final contract, either a one-way airplane ticket back to your home country or a transportation allowance of 700,000 won will be provided by the School upon leaving the position. For instructors receiving a one-way ticket the school will purchase the ticket with the school�s credit card and will pay up to a maximum of 1.5 million won. For those teachers who renew their contracts for another year the one-way airplane ticket or transportation allowance will be provided once they fulfill their final contract in the Gangnam District.


It's still a good deal for me even without an airfare, but I would like to know what is actually the case. Any experience or advice would be welcomed.
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soyoungmikey



Joined: 29 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for GDOE a while back and yes the 6-week vacation was standard. I have kept up with the posting for the job recently and I was surprised that it's now down to 4 weeks. I think they've changed their policy. As for the flight I got the 700,000 but I was an in country hire. Don't know if that helps you or not.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply soyoungmikey. It's good to hear about the airfare (I'm also an in-country hire). Shame about the vacation.

Anyone else know anything about the Gangnam DOE vacation policy?

Cheers.
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Slaps



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Location: Sitting on top of the world

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend working there and he said that the vacation entitlement has indeed been cut from 6 down to 4 weeks.
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sigmundsmith



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason why the vacation has been cut from 6 to 4 weeks is due to the elimination of Saturday teaching. Even though most NSET's (if not all) don't teach on Saturdays Gangnam District Office has decided to add an extra week of teaching for both teaching semesters. Thus, the reduction in vacation time.
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigmundsmith wrote:
The reason why the vacation has been cut from 6 to 4 weeks is due to the elimination of Saturday teaching. Even though most NSET's (if not all) don't teach on Saturdays Gangnam District Office has decided to add an extra week of teaching for both teaching semesters. Thus, the reduction in vacation time.


Is it true the PS system has been going down the tubes. It was a pretty sweet gig when I left almost 2 years ago.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That sucks! It's still a big improvement on my current situation overall, so 4 weeks it is I guess. Thanks for the info all Smile
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alistaircandlin



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you get six weeks if you renew your contract, and stay for more than one year?

When I was there elementary teachers got six weeks automatically, but at middle school we started on four weeks for the first year, and got an extra two if we stayed for a second.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that somewhere too, but all the other threads about Gangnam schools are at least 2 years old. Can anyone who works there now confirm this?
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alistaircandlin



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruthdes - I left at the end of May this year, and that was still the case when I left. I got 6 weeks vacation in the year from Sep. 11 to Sep. 12, because it was my second year. (Or I would have, if I hadn't left before my contract was up.)

I hadn't heard anything from Gangnam Gu Office about reduced vacation time for the next contract, as of May 31st. Although, if we'd been informed of this at the last minute, just before re-signing, it would have been no big surprise.

You could phone the admin. staff at Gangnam Gu Chong, and ask if you still get six weeks in your second year.

P.S. When I started, in Sep. 2010, the guys working elementary schools got 6 weeks straight off - they didn't have to wait for the second year to get this. It sucks if they've reduced it. The Korean staff don't lose any holidays - in fact they get more time off, because they no longer work alternate Saturdays - but native speakers' holidays are cut? Nice one! Good way to attract qualified teachers and entice them to stay on, I would have thought.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply alistaircandlin. I did email the lady at Gangnam Office about the vacation and this was her reply:
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We had to adjust the holidays and vacation policy because without Saturday classes, summer vacation dates are sharply reduced in Elementary schools starting this year. This causes lots of conflicts with native teachers' vacation dates for summer/ winter camps. For example, from this summer, 2012, the total number of summer vacation weeks in Elementary schools is about 3 weeks long, and 2 out of 3 weeks is summer camp. During winter, 4 weeks for winter vacation, and 3 out of 4 weeks is winter camp. As a result, it is impossible for us to offer 6 weeks of vacation in this situation.


Then I wrote back to her asking how I could take 4 weeks vacation a year if 2 out of 3 weeks of summer vacation, and 3 out 4 weeks of winter vacation is camp and she replied
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Each school in Gangnam has slightly differnet vacation schedule. I don't know exactly about your school, but, some elementraty schools have 4 weeks long summer vacation, and some have 3 weeks.
During winter, it also depends on the schedule of each school, but usually 4 ~ 5 weeks long winter vacation. (From the end of Dec to the end of Jan). Also, you will have spring break at the end of Feb about 1 ~ 2 weeks long.
As a result, you can figure out your (20) work days vacation during those school vacation time.

Seems like vacations will not be 6 weeks for anyone anymore. Shame, it would've been nice.
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dkteachlife



Joined: 24 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:04 am    Post subject: Current Gangnam Public School Teachers Reply with quote

Current Gangnam Teachers

How far behind do you think Gangnam is from SMOE in Job cuts?

2013, 2014, 2015?
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Current Gangnam Public School Teachers Reply with quote

dkteachlife wrote:
Current Gangnam Teachers

How far behind do you think Gangnam is from SMOE in Job cuts?

2013, 2014, 2015?


I'm not a Gangnam teacher so I probably shouldn't answer, but I feel like the money in that part of town will keep the schools funded.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you apply to them? Is it a lengthy process like SMOE or EPIK?
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