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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Korea seems not so safe for children Reply with quote

The recent attempted rape and murder of a ten-year-old girl in Tongyeong by a convicted sex offender who, thank to legal loopholes, was able to avoid getting a monitoring anklet and keep his record. The neighborhood he was in had no idea he was a convicted sex offender.

Another report told of a convicted child sex offender near Seoul who now counsels students at a computer hakwon. The academy is for adults but minors are also admitted, which is ridiculous since it employs a convicted child sex offender.

For those who say "it happens in other countries," Korea is No. 6 in the world in the production of child porn.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a source for that child porn thing? First time I'm hearing it, but not that hard to believe.
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Joe Boxer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is on CNN now. It's about a Korean kid that killed himself because of bullying:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/25/world/asia/south-korea-school-bully/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

For all the kids that kill themselves because of bullying, how many simply endure it? It's terrible.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullying is a horrible phenomenon that kids have to deal with in school or around school. The bad thing is that with social networks now bullying expanded into cyberspace and thereby into the kids home, ie a bullied kid can be harried at school (physically) and also harried online (psychologically). Considering the importance kids and teens put on online social networking this can be terrible.

We were watchful of this in Korea and that did not change in Canada as we have two kids (one in school, the other in daycare).

There are no easy solutions to this.

As for the OP by Yaya, this rapist should have been hung from his *beep* but sadly the justice system in Korea failed the victim(s) in this case. As for c-porn production and criminals/pervs/sex offenders working in hakwons, sadly it seems to happen.

Is Korea safe or safer than say Canada or the US for kids? That is a very hard question to answer but as a parent of 2 who lived in Korea and now lives in Canada, I will say that as parents you watch out for different things in Korea vs Canada but that safety of your kids is always a concern.
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northway



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Bullying is a horrible phenomenon that kids have to deal with in school or around school. The bad thing is that with social networks now bullying expanded into cyberspace and thereby into the kids home, ie a bullied kid can be harried at school (physically) and also harried online (psychologically). Considering the importance kids and teens put on online social networking this can be terrible.

We were watchful of this in Korea and that did not change in Canada as we have two kids (one in school, the other in daycare).

There are no easy solutions to this.

As for the OP by Yaya, this rapist should have been hung from his *beep* but sadly the justice system in Korea failed the victim(s) in this case. As for c-porn production and criminals/pervs/sex offenders working in hakwons, sadly it seems to happen.

Is Korea safe or safer than say Canada or the US for kids? That is a very hard question to answer but as a parent of 2 who lived in Korea and now lives in Canada, I will say that as parents you watch out for different things in Korea vs Canada but that safety of your kids is always a concern.


I definitely get what you mean with the last part, but I will say that Korea seems to be much more lenient when punishing those who prey on children. This seems to be due to Korea's allowance of the alcohol excuse and a failure to harshly punish repeat offenders. I don't know that Korea is any more dangerous for kids, but the authorities don't do a good job of throwing the book at those who do abuse them.
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fosterman



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yesterday a korean uncle was arrested for habitually raping his nieces
and also yesterday a guy was arrested for trying to rape a 9 year old girl, he followed her into the elevator and then dragged her into the stair well where he tried to rape her, he managed to get his clothes off and almost had her but miraculously the girls mother came up the stairs, he took off with his panty inside out but left all his clothes behind, the cops picked him up.

he was another repeated sex child offender,
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sml7285



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Bullying is a horrible phenomenon that kids have to deal with in school or around school. The bad thing is that with social networks now bullying expanded into cyberspace and thereby into the kids home, ie a bullied kid can be harried at school (physically) and also harried online (psychologically). Considering the importance kids and teens put on online social networking this can be terrible.

We were watchful of this in Korea and that did not change in Canada as we have two kids (one in school, the other in daycare).

There are no easy solutions to this.

As for the OP by Yaya, this rapist should have been hung from his *beep* but sadly the justice system in Korea failed the victim(s) in this case. As for c-porn production and criminals/pervs/sex offenders working in hakwons, sadly it seems to happen.

Is Korea safe or safer than say Canada or the US for kids? That is a very hard question to answer but as a parent of 2 who lived in Korea and now lives in Canada, I will say that as parents you watch out for different things in Korea vs Canada but that safety of your kids is always a concern.


I definitely get what you mean with the last part, but I will say that Korea seems to be much more lenient when punishing those who prey on children. This seems to be due to Korea's allowance of the alcohol excuse and a failure to harshly punish repeat offenders. I don't know that Korea is any more dangerous for kids, but the authorities don't do a good job of throwing the book at those who do abuse them.


Jerry Sandusky? Catholic Priests? I think all these f*********** should be castrated, regardless of nationality, but to state that pedophilia is more widespread in Korea seems odd to me.
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northway



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sml7285 wrote:
northway wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Bullying is a horrible phenomenon that kids have to deal with in school or around school. The bad thing is that with social networks now bullying expanded into cyberspace and thereby into the kids home, ie a bullied kid can be harried at school (physically) and also harried online (psychologically). Considering the importance kids and teens put on online social networking this can be terrible.

We were watchful of this in Korea and that did not change in Canada as we have two kids (one in school, the other in daycare).

There are no easy solutions to this.

As for the OP by Yaya, this rapist should have been hung from his *beep* but sadly the justice system in Korea failed the victim(s) in this case. As for c-porn production and criminals/pervs/sex offenders working in hakwons, sadly it seems to happen.

Is Korea safe or safer than say Canada or the US for kids? That is a very hard question to answer but as a parent of 2 who lived in Korea and now lives in Canada, I will say that as parents you watch out for different things in Korea vs Canada but that safety of your kids is always a concern.


I definitely get what you mean with the last part, but I will say that Korea seems to be much more lenient when punishing those who prey on children. This seems to be due to Korea's allowance of the alcohol excuse and a failure to harshly punish repeat offenders. I don't know that Korea is any more dangerous for kids, but the authorities don't do a good job of throwing the book at those who do abuse them.


Jerry Sandusky? Catholic Priests? I think all these f*********** should be castrated, regardless of nationality, but to state that pedophilia is more widespread in Korea seems odd to me.


Did I state that in any way, shape, or form?
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I obviously don't have first hand experience of child molestation so I don't know exactly how widespread it is. But in Korea the line between abuse and "affection" are often blurry. I've mentioned in your military service thread how guys might do some borderline (and sometimes not so borderline) questionable stuff "jokingly" or in "good fun." Sexual abuse suffers from the same ambiguity. Adults may touch a kid in the name of "affection" but it may be seen by many as highly inappropriate. And a lot of times, its the excuse pedophiles make when charged. Couple that with the Korean parental trait of letting kids run around unsupervised, I can see child molestation being rampant.
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Seoulman69



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The courts in Korea should be harder on sex offenders. If someone is caught and convicted of a sex crime then they should be chemically castrated and jailed for a long period of time. The victim should be allowed to administer the chemical castration. There should also be a website where the names of all sex offenders are shown to the general public which employers can check the names of any applicants.
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sml7285



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
sml7285 wrote:
northway wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Bullying is a horrible phenomenon that kids have to deal with in school or around school. The bad thing is that with social networks now bullying expanded into cyberspace and thereby into the kids home, ie a bullied kid can be harried at school (physically) and also harried online (psychologically). Considering the importance kids and teens put on online social networking this can be terrible.

We were watchful of this in Korea and that did not change in Canada as we have two kids (one in school, the other in daycare).

There are no easy solutions to this.

As for the OP by Yaya, this rapist should have been hung from his *beep* but sadly the justice system in Korea failed the victim(s) in this case. As for c-porn production and criminals/pervs/sex offenders working in hakwons, sadly it seems to happen.

Is Korea safe or safer than say Canada or the US for kids? That is a very hard question to answer but as a parent of 2 who lived in Korea and now lives in Canada, I will say that as parents you watch out for different things in Korea vs Canada but that safety of your kids is always a concern.


I definitely get what you mean with the last part, but I will say that Korea seems to be much more lenient when punishing those who prey on children. This seems to be due to Korea's allowance of the alcohol excuse and a failure to harshly punish repeat offenders. I don't know that Korea is any more dangerous for kids, but the authorities don't do a good job of throwing the book at those who do abuse them.


Jerry Sandusky? Catholic Priests? I think all these f*********** should be castrated, regardless of nationality, but to state that pedophilia is more widespread in Korea seems odd to me.


Did I state that in any way, shape, or form?


My bad - I worked out for about 4 hours today... I'm tired.
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4 months left



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This stuff has always been going on in Korea ... sexual crimes and violence against women and children, the gov't and media hid it. People are finally realizing they should report to try to reduce this type of behavior rather than suppressing it.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Bullying is a horrible phenomenon that kids have to deal with in school or around school. The bad thing is that with social networks now bullying expanded into cyberspace and thereby into the kids home, ie a bullied kid can be harried at school (physically) and also harried online (psychologically). Considering the importance kids and teens put on online social networking this can be terrible.

We were watchful of this in Korea and that did not change in Canada as we have two kids (one in school, the other in daycare).

There are no easy solutions to this.

As for the OP by Yaya, this rapist should have been hung from his *beep* but sadly the justice system in Korea failed the victim(s) in this case. As for c-porn production and criminals/pervs/sex offenders working in hakwons, sadly it seems to happen.

Is Korea safe or safer than say Canada or the US for kids? That is a very hard question to answer but as a parent of 2 who lived in Korea and now lives in Canada, I will say that as parents you watch out for different things in Korea vs Canada but that safety of your kids is always a concern.


I definitely get what you mean with the last part, but I will say that Korea seems to be much more lenient when punishing those who prey on children. This seems to be due to Korea's allowance of the alcohol excuse and a failure to harshly punish repeat offenders. I don't know that Korea is any more dangerous for kids, but the authorities don't do a good job of throwing the book at those who do abuse them.


Quite possible Northway.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
The courts in Korea should be harder on sex offenders. If someone is caught and convicted of a sex crime then they should be chemically castrated and jailed for a long period of time. The victim should be allowed to administer the chemical castration. There should also be a website where the names of all sex offenders are shown to the general public which employers can check the names of any applicants.


Well this does not happen in many countries on Earth and that is a good thing.

For Pete's sake what you are saying here opens the door to vigilante violence. The JUSTICE SYSTEM needs to deal with sex offenders, not everyday citizens who want revenge.

What about those who end up being wrongly accused and convicted, what happens to them if their "names are published"?


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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for sex crimes in general, they tend to be under reported in most places due the shame the victims feel. That is one of the biggest hurdles police and the justice system face in most countries when dealing with these crimes.

Bullying is the same in many ways because the victims tend to keep quiet about it.

If no one presses charges, nothing typically does happen.
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