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Destroyer



Joined: 11 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Teaching my son Reply with quote

I have recently started teaching my 4 year old son and his 6 year old cousin English at home. He is as fluent as a 4 year old can get, but he doesn't have the coordination to write yet. His cousin is a few years older, she is from a monolingual Korean household but she has been in English classes before. Her writing is nice, her reading is a little more developed than my son, but her speaking and listening skills are far lower than my son.

I don't have much experience teaching kids this young and I am looking for text book advice. Are there any books you have found particularly effective for this age level? I am open to teach reading, writing, speaking and listening. They both really like drawing and coloring (duh).

So far I have been reading standard story books (cat in the hat, eric carle, etc.) and then making worksheets and coloring exercises. I would like to get a little more structure in the class. Have some long term progression going on! I need advice.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching my son Reply with quote

Destroyer wrote:
I would like to get a little more structure in the class


Do the opposite of this. Don't try to structure stuff for kids. Provide opportunities for them to get interested in materials and let them go with it! You've already been reading to them from books; get lots more books and let them choose which ones they want to read (or have read to them). And the six year old should definitely try to read stuff on her own. A wide variety of fiction and non-fiction would be good. Stuff thats easy for them to read as well as stuff that's too difficult for them (that they could read with you) would be good.

Leveled sets of books are available and commonly used in schools. You could use these as an assessment to see where the kids are at and see where they are in a month or two. This could be the structure that you're looking for.

For writing, I suppose worksheets would be fine as long as the kids enjoy them. Though these days in Kindergarten (in Canada, anyway) we try to provide activities that incorporate a wide variety of other subjects with writing as a secondary thing.

For the six year old, her speaking and listening skills will be primarily developed through practice. So simply speaking to her, having conversations, and playing with her with your son will do a great deal more than formal practice. If she watches TV, perhaps recommend limiting the amount of Korean-language shows and allowing her unlimited English shows.

Sounds like you're doing well so far though; good luck and keep it up!
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's almost impossible to teach two kids with two totally different skill sets. As was mentioned above, use their strengths to teach each other. Have them engaged in organized play.
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Destroyer



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice guys. I do enjoy the free form lessons and the kids are definitely interested in the story books, but I'm worried about actually "Teaching" them something. Worried that the progression is logical, and not jumping around too much. What are the names of some of these leveled books? My son's kindergarten only does story books and the niece was using a writing book for a while, 100 Words to Know by 1st Grade... kinda aimless, not anything "leveled."

I definitely agree with the advice that the girl is going to develop more from genuine play and use of language. she has actually made great progress. What about my boy's writing? Any tips there? Both he and I are left handed, and I remember having a hell of a time getting taught my letters by an uptight right handed only teacher. She would just wrench my hand around so it would simulate a right handed position, now my hand is above the line that I am writing on. Should I just try to let him develop naturally? Is it dangerous for him to see me writing all wonky?

Before anyone tells me I'm over thinking it, I know I am.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you don't mind a question but I am curious about something.

I have seen a few times people on here who are married to Koreans writing a post about "teaching" their children English. When you are at home, do you and the Korean parent speak only Korean? Or do you speak both languages? If you only speak Korean, why not English too (equally). If you speak both, does the child still have a stronger ability in Korean so that he/she needs extra structured lessons?

I'm South African. English is my first language but I'm equally fluent in a second language (spoken in my house) and can speak a few others (not spoken in my house)
I was never "taught" my second language. My parents speak it to each other and it's just around the house. We had language lessons in school of course but we pick the second (or third language even) up at home and are pretty well-versed in it by the time we get to school.

So in my mind, this method ensures that the child just learns (absorbs?)all languages spoken by the family in the house, as naturally as it learns the first language. Granted in South Africa, the whole country is at least bilingual, which makes the second language easier to pick up but in our first few years when we're learning to speak, how much of the outside world do we come into contact with?

I always encourage Korean people, who can speak English, to speak it to their kids at home as often as they can. I believe that this facilitates the learning of the language in a more natural way. but it appears that even native English speakers children are having to be "taught" English.
Are your chidren also taught Korean in the way they are taught English? Or is English the weaker language, even though one parent is English-speaking?

I hope this doesn't sound at all critical or confrontational. I really am just wondering how it works.
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madowlspeaks



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ambleside online is awesome.
This is grade 1. http://www.amblesideonline.org/01bks.shtml


It is literature based, and will give you ideas about what your child should know for history, literature, geography, et..

You will additional programs like phonics try Headprout (online) or Phonics Cue (book), math (singapore math or free online MEP math ) and a science program (try Blue Planet or Brain Bank.)
At that age though, phonics is a MUST Smile
BOOK STORES
http://ltr.co.kr/shop/together/index.php?page=5
yes24.com
whatthebook

Should give you a nice start

One book will not do it all.

If you are looking for bare bones go with a good phonics program like Headsprout combined with a book like Phonics Cue and use the leveled Brain Bank sets for science and social studies. (K-5)

Cheers!


Look at homeschoolreviews
http://www.homeschoolreviews.com/


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madowlspeaks



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Destroyer wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys. I do enjoy the free form lessons and the kids are definitely interested in the story books, but I'm worried about actually "Teaching" them something. Worried that the progression is logical, and not jumping around too much. What are the names of some of these leveled books? My son's kindergarten only does story books and the niece was using a writing book for a while, 100 Words to Know by 1st Grade... kinda aimless, not anything "leveled."

I definitely agree with the advice that the girl is going to develop more from genuine play and use of language. she has actually made great progress. What about my boy's writing? Any tips there? Both he and I are left handed, and I remember having a hell of a time getting taught my letters by an uptight right handed only teacher. She would just wrench my hand around so it would simulate a right handed position, now my hand is above the line that I am writing on. Should I just try to let him develop naturally? Is it dangerous for him to see me writing all wonky?

Before anyone tells me I'm over thinking it, I know I am.


For handwriting, try these cute packets, (see for cursive and regular)

http://www.janbrett.com/alphabet/alphabet_tracers_cursive.htm

Just give them lots of practice with medium sized letters and correct systematic mistakes if you see a regular pattern of errors setting in before they get ugly.


Make sure you give them copywork) copying and writing sentences correctly out of a book


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madowlspeaks



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madowlspeaks wrote:
Destroyer wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys. I do enjoy the free form lessons and the kids are definitely interested in the story books, but I'm worried about actually "Teaching" them something. Worried that the progression is logical, and not jumping around too much. What are the names of some of these leveled books? My son's kindergarten only does story books and the niece was using a writing book for a while, 100 Words to Know by 1st Grade... kinda aimless, not anything "leveled."

I definitely agree with the advice that the girl is going to develop more from genuine play and use of language. she has actually made great progress. What about my boy's writing? Any tips there? Both he and I are left handed, and I remember having a hell of a time getting taught my letters by an uptight right handed only teacher. She would just wrench my hand around so it would simulate a right handed position, now my hand is above the line that I am writing on. Should I just try to let him develop naturally? Is it dangerous for him to see me writing all wonky?

Before anyone tells me I'm over thinking it, I know I am.


For handwriting, try these cute packets, (see for cursive and regular)

http://www.janbrett.com/alphabet/alphabet_tracers_cursive.htm

Just give him lots of practice with medium sized letters and correct systematic mistakes if you see a regular pattern of errors setting in before they get ugly.


Make sure you give the 6 year old copywork (copying and writing sentences correctly out of a book)


For the 4 year old I would not push the neatness of handwriting-wait until he is 5.5 or so. In the meantime, large to medium large sized letters with crayons would be fun for him I think. Check Costco for awesome workbooks suited for Pre K and K
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