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seoulmon
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:18 am Post subject: T or F: Korea great place to live if you fit a stereotype |
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True or False: Korea is a great place to live if you fit a way-guk stereotype?
I've been thinking about this a lot, and I have mixed feelings about this...... |
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snufalufagus
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| And what are the specifics of this sterotype ? |
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ohahakehte
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| i would say that yes...there is some truth to the notion that those waygookis who fit certain images or stereotypes fit in quickly in korea. especially w/ regards to dating korean women, most of the ones ive met all expect and want brad pitt characters. their knowledge of "western" guys is really blunt and limited and evidently they have set molds in their minds of what white guys are like. i usually never fit those molds, and happily so. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Here's what I see as the Korean stereotype of foreigners:
 little or no interest in learning the Korean language
little or no interest in learning about Korea or Korean culture
spends all the time with people who speak English
does not know anything except the English language
has no skills except speaking the English language
has a superficial mind and enjoys superficial conversation
never goes anywhere in town except to the bus terminal
never goes to any city except Seoul
too weak and dependent to catch a bus without help
too weak and dependent to catch a train without help
too weak and dependent to catch a subway train without help
too weak and dependent to order lunch without help
too weak and dependent to make a purchase without help
too weak and dependent to find books in the library without help
weak and dependent generally
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Tomato wrote: |
has little or no interest in learning the Korean language
has little or no interest in learning about Korea or Korean culture
spends all the time with people who speak English
does not know anything except the English language
has no skills except speaking the English language
has a superficial mind and enjoys superficial conversation
never goes anywhere in town except to the bus terminal
never goes to any city except Seoul
is too weak and helpless to catch a bus without help
is too weak and helpless to catch a train without help
is too weak and helpless to order lunch without help
is too weak and helpless to make a purchase without help
is too weak and helpless to find books in the library without help
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Sounds more like your list of stereotypes, not those of a Korean. And apart from number one, which is fair, they're all wrong. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Cleaned and *bumped*
Please stick to the topic, thanks!
waterbaby |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Hey waterbaby... can I arrange a weekly clean and bump session from ya?  |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
| Tomato wrote: |
has little or no interest in learning the Korean language
has little or no interest in learning about Korea or Korean culture
spends all the time with people who speak English
does not know anything except the English language
has no skills except speaking the English language
has a superficial mind and enjoys superficial conversation
never goes anywhere in town except to the bus terminal
never goes to any city except Seoul
is too weak and helpless to catch a bus without help
is too weak and helpless to catch a train without help
is too weak and helpless to order lunch without help
is too weak and helpless to make a purchase without help
is too weak and helpless to find books in the library without help
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Sounds more like your list of stereotypes, not those of a Korean. And apart from number one, which is fair, they're all wrong. |
If by wrong you mean often true, then yes. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:27 am Post subject: |
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P'haps
you could just as easily change "English" to "Korean" and vice versa whenever a Korean goes overseas? |
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korian
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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ittle or no interest in learning the Korean language
little or no interest in learning about Korea or Korean culture
spends all the time with people who speak English
does not know anything except the English language
has no skills except speaking the English language
has a superficial mind and enjoys superficial conversation
never goes anywhere in town except to the bus terminal
never goes to any city except Seoul
too weak and dependent to catch a bus without help
too weak and dependent to catch a train without help
too weak and dependent to catch a subway train without help
too weak and dependent to order lunch without help
too weak and dependent to make a purchase without help
too weak and dependent to find books in the library without help
weak and dependent generally |
first one ok but for many who are here for short term monetary, and/or exploration purposes, there is no onus to do so
second one, again that's a choice short term visitors are free to make.
third one. all is the operative word here. 99% of westerners would spend most of their time with those who spoke english. as is the case anywhere in the world with foreigners. dunno what you might expect. but all their time....perhaps some do but i find that hard to believe when they teach in korea with koreans and work for koreans.....
then as for the rest, they are obviously your own ideas. and very limited at that.
but as for the OP you're not really answering the q coz i can say with confidence that the average korean wouldn't be basing their stereotypes of westerners on esl teachers. it would be from hollywood, tv, the USA etc.
so your little potshot is essentially pointless. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Do I really care what the Korean stereotype of foreigners is?
Really, Tomato, I doubt that the average Korean spends that much time thinking about what a foreigner is like. They figure if we have trouble with the language, then doing the day to day things must be difficult, not that we're weak and dependent.
For the record- the most coddling I've gotten in this country has been at the Cheong ju inter city bus terminal. Is there still a guy there who assumes no white person can master the art of those stupid ticket machines? |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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i think that that other list is a bit silly, if we were all so weak, how would we have ever gotten here?
as a grrrl, korean men definately have their own stereotypes for us, they think that we're all sluts. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| If by wrong you mean often true, then yes. |
No, I mean wrong, like your head ... |
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discostar23
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: getting the hell out of dodge
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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I was having a conversation about this with my co-worker while taking a walk in the park yesterday.
I said to her "Do you think people are so friendly to us because
a) We are not super tall like a lot of westerners
b) We are attractive
c) We smile a lot"
We figured we were being too superficial if we believed A and B so we decided its probably C. A smile can take you anywhere   |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
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| If by wrong you mean often true, then yes. |
No, I mean wrong, like your head ... |
It's amazing how time spent on this board is inversely proportionate to respect for your posts. Hmm...
(The director at my last school used to try to help me cross the street. Seriously. This makes at least one of the other stereotypes correct, and your denial of them, well, moronic.) |
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