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[sojusucks]

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[Julius]

[TL]

Maybe they should ease in the policy by making this year's group of high school entrants (i.e. current first year students) the first group to be subject to the new rules.

[wylies99]

[Squire]

I don't like the idea of holding someone back like this based on fighting. It could be too harsh in many cases and sometimes justice won't be served if they blame the wrong person for an incident. Sometimes people have a beating coming to them and the Korean system of blaming the winner is BS

What's needed is the stick, keeping kids in behaviour units for a while, temporary suspensions and finally expelling them and letting them start again at a different school. If a kid makes it through all that and still comes out with great grades their future shouldn't be jeopardised. I don't like the idea of an adult's future being compromised by stupid things they did as a youngster. Most people do daft things when they're young and I don't think it always has a bearing on how they turn out as an adult

[newb]

[Keeper]

[Julius]

[coralreefer_1]

Other than the top universities in the country, I cant imagine many universities would care much about an applicant who had some mention of violence on their high school record.

A bully at high school becomes the tiny minnow in a big pond once entering university, and after having been on university campuses here as a student for multiple years I can tell you that those types of people tend to get dealt with fairly quickly by their peers if they show that type of behavior.

[K1020]

This again, I'm always surprised by posters who think violence (let's call a spade a spade) against children is some solution to the problem of violent children. Any grownup who wants to hit a child is not a fit educator and at least a lazy and disinterested parent/ caregiver. That being said the thread is about conflicting takes on a school policy and not school violence directly.
Echoing a few previous posters, I am not sure that the personal files of students should be transferred to post secondary institutions. Sure, transcripts and possibly academic or civic commendations ie: science fair honors or volunteer participation, but behavior records or personal incident reports, no way. I can just see this turning into an issue of, Jin Suk was in a fight in the 8th grade so he can't go to Daebak Dae-Hackyo. I'd hate to see that happen.
When students get to pick their own classes and friends out of a much larger pool bullying tappers off; no? Is it really a concern in Universities here?

I think records need to be kept to address chronic behavioral issues with dismissive parents. With a solid paper trail schools are in a better position to address a situation like this more objectivity so I'm glad the schools are trying to keep records, but to use school records punitively or as a deterrent in lieu of proper rearing is bad policy.

[dairyairy]

It seems like there's a great deal of "casual" bullying but in order to get something noted on the record it takes something big and dramatic.

But the biggest thing, to me, is that there still has been nothing clear about what the education boards intend to do about violent students and bullying. The Gyeonggi-do Board chief doesn't want to do much of anything about the problems.

[Julius]

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[kingplaya4]

I could be wrong on this, but I don't believe corporal punishment was removed because the boards of education thought it was always bad. I think a few whacks on the hand for a student who's disrupting the class is completely appropriate. The problem is that teachers in Korea and in the US at times crossed the line and turned corporal punishment into beatings, which I think most agree are never appropriate, neither at home nor at school.

Probably the only way mild corporal punishment could be reinstituted is if there were cameras in all public school classrooms, and the principal or vice principal would have to review when it was used.

[dairyairy]