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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: Finding after school jobs in Seoul (through public only) |
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My girlfriend and I's EPIK contracts will end April 25th. We won't be leaving the country, and will be looking for positions in Seoul(going to take part time on campus courses so it has to be in Seoul). I would rather work after school programs that are collaborations between public and private schools (the 1 pm to 6 pm jobs). I know people in Daegu with these positions, but no one in Seoul. I would gladly work in public school positions, but they obviously hire at different times.
1) When is a good time to contact recruiters? also does anyone know of a recruiter who could help with this?
2) Will we need all new documents if the position change is within thirty days? I've read a few things on this, but was not sure.
I have read and talked to some people about these positions, and like most jobs here they are good and bad. If anyone has experience with these positions, especially in Seoul, I would like to here about it
I also realize I am limiting myself with only after school positions and not hagwons. |
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jurassic82
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| I currently work at a Public School in Seoul and at my school there are two NET that work as part of the after school program you are talking about. I believe most public schools have these programs and they shouldn't be hard to come by. I have been at my school for four years now and I have seen various teachers come and go that have worked for the after school program. Mind you they not because they didn't like it but they finished there year and moved on. From what I can see it seems like a pretty good gig. A schedule of 1 - 6pm maybe have to arrive at noon to prep. Decent vacation with at least two weeks and all the schools holidays where the school will be closed and you will have the odd 3 or 4 day weekend. I say just search the job board here or recruiters like work n play. It seems like I always see job posts for after school programs in Seoul. ANyways, best of luck |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Most of the agencies running these programs will only hire those with an F6 visa. Legally it's very difficult to hire E2 people to do these jobs. Remember that you need a special license to sponsor an E visa in the first place. Only programs where the school is doing the sponsoring is it possible and these days the conditions are nothing like 1-6 for full pay. Check the boards and see for yourself. |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Most of the agencies running these programs will only hire those with an F6 visa. Legally it's very difficult to hire E2 people to do these jobs. Remember that you need a special license to sponsor an E visa in the first place. Only programs where the school is doing the sponsoring is it possible and these days the conditions are nothing like 1-6 for full pay. Check the boards and see for yourself. |
I have seen several people do it in Daegu. I think they all did it through personal references, and not job boards. I'm not saying these jobs are easy to come by, but I know its possible. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyshine wrote: |
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| Most of the agencies running these programs will only hire those with an F6 visa. Legally it's very difficult to hire E2 people to do these jobs. Remember that you need a special license to sponsor an E visa in the first place. Only programs where the school is doing the sponsoring is it possible and these days the conditions are nothing like 1-6 for full pay. Check the boards and see for yourself. |
I have seen several people do it in Daegu. I think they all did it through personal references, and not job boards. I'm not saying these jobs are easy to come by, but I know its possible. |
If you already know better, why are bothering asking questions on Dave's. I mean if u won't listen to a guy who's actually done afterschool work several times, who will you listen to. |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Tyshine wrote: |
| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Most of the agencies running these programs will only hire those with an F6 visa. Legally it's very difficult to hire E2 people to do these jobs. Remember that you need a special license to sponsor an E visa in the first place. Only programs where the school is doing the sponsoring is it possible and these days the conditions are nothing like 1-6 for full pay. Check the boards and see for yourself. |
I have seen several people do it in Daegu. I think they all did it through personal references, and not job boards. I'm not saying these jobs are easy to come by, but I know its possible. |
If you already know better, why are bothering asking questions on Dave's. I mean if u won't listen to a guy who's actually done afterschool work several times, who will you listen to. |
I just want to see what is possible. Since the likelyhood of getting two after school jobs is low I will move foward with my back up options. I appreciate the answer and don' t doubt you. I was just hoping I could do it. |
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jurassic82
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Most of the agencies running these programs will only hire those with an F6 visa. Legally it's very difficult to hire E2 people to do these jobs. Remember that you need a special license to sponsor an E visa in the first place. Only programs where the school is doing the sponsoring is it possible and these days the conditions are nothing like 1-6 for full pay. Check the boards and see for yourself. |
In all my time here I have never heard anything like this. I have met over a dozen people in Seoul that have done an after school program at a public school in Seoul. Basically it is like a hagwon inside a public school as most my friends that did it were hired through the company and not the individual school. They were all given an E2 Visa. Look online and you will see that these jobs are a dime a dozen. Many recruiters advertise for them. Maybe things are different outside of Seoul but if you are in Seoul it should be easy to find a suitable afterschool gig. Good Luck! |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| jurassic82 wrote: |
| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Most of the agencies running these programs will only hire those with an F6 visa. Legally it's very difficult to hire E2 people to do these jobs. Remember that you need a special license to sponsor an E visa in the first place. Only programs where the school is doing the sponsoring is it possible and these days the conditions are nothing like 1-6 for full pay. Check the boards and see for yourself. |
In all my time here I have never heard anything like this. I have met over a dozen people in Seoul that have done an after school program at a public school in Seoul. Basically it is like a hagwon inside a public school as most my friends that did it were hired through the company and not the individual school. They were all given an E2 Visa. Look online and you will see that these jobs are a dime a dozen. Many recruiters advertise for them. Maybe things are different outside of Seoul but if you are in Seoul it should be easy to find a suitable afterschool gig. Good Luck! |
It depends. In the cases where the teachers can get an E2 visa, it's the public school which has to sponsor the visa. As you've probably heard (and read here) the public schools aren't always too happy to have these programs inside, and the principals sometimes refuse to sponsor the visa.
I had an interesting situation last year, I applied and got an AS job in Seoul, and when I went to the PS to get the docs to process the visa (with the manager from the program) the principal flat-out refused to sponsor the visa. The VP said this wouldn't be a problem, he has a friend who owns a hagwon who will sponsor the E2, for a nominal fee of course. Resulting in a situation, where not only would I be working at a different location (and for a different company) than what was on my visa, but I'd be paying for the privilege. To add insult to injury, this all went down the day before my E2 expired. To cut a long story short, I didn't take the position. |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| This is good info. Thanks guys. I'm not sure if I should go for it or not. I could take the classes in Seoul next semester, but I would have to commute from Daegu to Seoul every Friday, and stay at a jimjilbang every weekend. I have other options in Daegu or Busan, but would prefer to live in Seoul. |
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thebearofbundang
Joined: 02 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I've worked at an afterschool program before. I found the position advertised online and applied for it. I was hired by a company who ran 20 or so afterschool programs in Gyeongi. But my company only hired F6 visa holders.
Hours were 1-6 and pay was around 3.1 with no housing. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| No idea what he's on, most companies hire E2/F2/F4/F5/F6. |
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jiberish
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I did it in Seoul for 3 years. With Win Education (edup).
It was 11-5pm with 12:50-5pm as teaching hours.
Salary was 2.4 + 400 housing. No pension.
They were OK. |
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