Korean Job Discussion Forums

[shostahoosier]

Is it difficult for a foreign student (graduate or undergraduate) to find a part-time job in Seoul that can pay between 700,000-1,000,000W a month?

[coralreefer_1]

I'm not sure what type of work that would be available, but its possible.

However note that (since this is an ESL board I will mention it) you can LEGALLY teach English on a student visa IF you meet all of the typical requirements of the E2 (degree, drug/criminal check...etc) and the other standard conditions for work permit as a students (certain amount of time enrolled in program, letter from professor..etc) and apply for that permission at immigration. Granted you can only LEGALLY do so for 20 hours/week during school semesters, but even at only 20 hours with the typical hourly rate many part time or otherwise under the table folks get, you could be making 3 million or more per month with only 20 hours of work.

[shostahoosier]

[furtakk]

if you did undergrad in your home country, you can teach legally on a student visa after 6 months. you can only do 20 hours a week, but you can easily make over a million (or more) if you find a good pt.

you need the same docs that you would need for an e2 though.

[coralreefer_1]

[shostahoosier]

This is awesome info! Thanks again. I will be attending a graduate program in Seoul next year. I have a good amount of money saved but would prefer to not touch it (actually I expect to use some of it for key money). I could pay both years of tuition outright, but I don't have the money for Seoul living expenses. I will probably have to live on campus.

I was able to get a partial scholarship and after budgeting figured I could live quite well if I made about 1,000,000W a month. My concern is finding work and having it fit into my schedule (I'm getting an MFA).

Coral Reefer is it possible to PM you?

[coralreefer_1]

Sure, PM away~

[viciousdinosaur]

I haven't figured out if CoralReefer is purposely trying to sucker in this fool or not.

OP if you do believe everything he's telling you, I have some Lehman Brothers stock you might be interested in.

[coralreefer_1]

edit - see below

[coralreefer_1]

Let me help you find the information since i know it is a maze on the immi site.

1. Go to site - www.hikorea.go.kr

2. At top, mouse over "Information"", then click "Immigration Guide"

3. From there, find the "Education" visa section, and click "more than 91 days

4. Click "Eligibility/procedure/document" for D2 status

5. On left sidebar, click " foreigner sojourn" and then click ""participation in activities uncertified under sojourn status"

6. At the top on the right of the main header, click "status of stay" (19)

7. Find the D2 (study abroad" in the list, and click it.


From this point, all of the conditions (working hours during semester) and typically acceptable work for those on D2 visa is stated, along with the procedures needed to get the work permit. Of note:

- Commonly allowed working field for students as translation�interpretation, a librarian�sublibrarian, a school cleaner, a staff at a restaurant, an assistant office worker, a research student at a laboratory who is doing his/her schoolwork and research at the same time, temporary assistant instructor, an assistant experimentation teacher, etc.

- Foreign language instructor at an educational institute as a private institute, etc. (the one must satisfy the necessary conditions to be a foreign language instructor



As far of my other comments, to find that information..go back to #6, and then instead of clicking D2 (Study abroad, click E2 (foreign Language instructor)

Of note:

- Natives of the country whose mother language is the one they are teaching. In addition, they should have a bachelor's degree or higher from that country

- exceptionally, D-2(Foreign student) visa holder qualified with above mentioned conditions may teach foreign language with part time job permit and E-1(Professor) visa holder may teach at camp that are registered as lifetime education facility.

- D-2(Foreign student) visa holder and native speaker of English
- Completed sophomore or higher at university in English speaking country or finished formal schooling in English more than 10 years and completed sophomore or higher at university in Korea



Now, in regards to the other things I mentioned, it is quite common for foreigners (especially those who fit the profile most places desire) can be making anywhere between 30,000 - 50,000 per hour at part time gigs at kindergartens, hagwons, camps etc. Those numbers come from my own experiences outside of Seoul, but I would guess some folks may be able to get more than that in posh areas of Seoul.

So, let me do the math for you: (on average) 40,000/hr x 20 hours/week =3.2 million per month.

And as I said, if you have options for more work during vacations one could conceivably DOUBLE that. Note that weekends and holidays one can work unlimited hours even during the semester. So, lets imagine one is working at one location 4 hours a day, 5 days a week at 40,000/hour. That is the 3.2 million stated above. Then imagine they are doing a Saturday class at the same location for lets say another 4 hours. that is an extra 640,000/month...bringing our total to 3,840,000 per month. THEN imagine during the summer and winter vacations, they added a second 20 hour/week job to the mix....bringing in an additional 3.2 million. Then you get a figure of just over 7 million won for 4 months out of the year, and then nearly 4 million all the other months. Now you have an idea of how I do things~~~



So I ask you Vicious, do you have anything else you have contention with? Maybe it would be best to keep quiet about things which you know little to nothing about~

[viciousdinosaur]

No, you didn't. You just wasted your time. This is 2012. There are not many jobs paying 30,000-50,000 won a hour out there these days. And to find some that are within commuting distance and fit his schedule will be even more difficult. And that's if you can even convince a school or educational company to consider employing someone on D2. Go on the job boards and check out the ads for part-time gigs and almost all of them say "F2/4/5/6" . And they mean that. They won't even look at people who don't meet their requirements, because it's not hard for them to find someone that does. Theoretically making 5 grand a month and actually making 5 grand a month are two totally different things.

[edwardcatflap]

So let me do the math for you. There are 24 hours in the day and there are jobs advertised on this site for 50,000 an hour, so you could be making 36,000,000 won a month!

[coralreefer_1]

Dude, Ive been pulling between 40-50k/hour for years, and this isnt even Seoul, and I'm not all that pretty, nor blond, and in my mid 30's.

Perhaps you need to read again, as I never said he/she was guaranteed to make that money. I simply stated that given the allowances of the situation, the average hourly rate for part-time workers (anyone doing a side job making less that 30k per hour is getting robbed) that assuming the found jobs they COULD make that much.

I'm not going to scan my bankbook to prove it, and I know it probably rubs some people the wrong way to know that is is possible to make 3.8million per month while working half as many hours as the standard E2 person, but that's simply the way it is for me, and can be for the OP if he/she can work out the schedule. Whether or not they can find jobs that fit their class/research schedule is a different issue entirely, but if I can do it, so can anyone else.

[Squire]

I don't know anything about visa issues involved, but private tutoring could be an option. I have a Korean friend who is studying full time but does a lot of private classes on top of that

[Captain Corea]