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bluethree



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Studying at higher level Korean programs Reply with quote

Ive been mostly self studying Korean and have managed to pass topik level three. I'm considering enrolling in a Korean uni program but I was wondering if there are any good ones for the higher levels? In particular I'm looking at yonsei and they said I would probably qualify for level 3 or 4 for their program. Any experiences with them or other higher level Korean programs?
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Daniel1981



Joined: 30 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say consider the KIIP program also - socinet.go.kr

Their courses are free. I am taking it now as part of getting an f series visa and like it a lot. I'm in level 4. There are 4 levels of Korean, then a social integration culture / history course. Each level is 100 hours except the last culture course which is 50 hours.

Our teacher said the KIIP levels match up roughly to the Yonsei levels.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking at studying Korean full time, I'd say go for the Sogang over Yonsei. I had a great experience with Sogang, while my Sonang classmates who'd also done Yonsei said Yonsei classes were reminiscent of 1950s CIA language school training (way too much listening and discreet grammar point testing). Sogang takes a communicative approach with lots of small group and pairwork, while making sure you still get the fundamentals. I've also heard great things about Ehwa's Korean program.

I've also done KIIP (levels 4 & 5), and did not have as good of an experience as Daniel did, especially at level 4. Quality varies massively from location to location and from teacher to teacher. However, if you want to do a part time program KIIP is free and offers classes all over the place and at different times. Completing the program will also bring you most of the way to qualifying for the F-2-7 residency visa. That alone makes KIIP worth doing, and was why I did it, but in terms of Korean language instruction it's no substitute for one of the better university programs.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
If you're looking at studying Korean full time, I'd say go for the Sogang over Yonsei. I had a great experience with Sogang, while my Sonang classmates who'd also done Yonsei said Yonsei classes were reminiscent of 1950s CIA language school training (way too much listening and discreet grammar point testing). Sogang takes a communicative approach with lots of small group and pairwork, while making sure you still get the fundamentals. I've also heard great things about Ehwa's Korean program.

I've also done KIIP (levels 4 & 5), and did not have as good of an experience as Daniel did, especially at level 4. Quality varies massively from location to location and from teacher to teacher. However, if you want to do a part time program KIIP is free and offers classes all over the place and at different times. Completing the program will also bring you most of the way to qualifying for the F-2-7 residency visa. That alone makes KIIP worth doing, and was why I did it, but in terms of Korean language instruction it's no substitute for one of the better university programs.


Agreed.
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Dodge7



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel1981 wrote:
I would say consider the KIIP program also - socinet.go.kr

Their courses are free. I am taking it now as part of getting an f series visa and like it a lot. I'm in level 4. There are 4 levels of Korean, then a social integration culture / history course. Each level is 100 hours except the last culture course which is 50 hours.

Our teacher said the KIIP levels match up roughly to the Yonsei levels.

Marry a Korean. Quicker and cheaper.
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murr



Joined: 11 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody know if one can do just the Korean language element of the program, or does one have to do the whole package i.e. the cultural course too?
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nick70100



Joined: 09 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluethree wrote:
Ive been mostly self studying Korean and have managed to pass topik level three. I'm considering enrolling in a Korean uni program but I was wondering if there are any good ones for the higher levels? In particular I'm looking at yonsei and they said I would probably qualify for level 3 or 4 for their program. Any experiences with them or other higher level Korean programs?


If you've come this far with self-study, why stop? I think that classroom learning is more beneficial at the lower levels anyway. If you're at the TOPIK level 3 you've already got the basics down. The biggest hurdle in moving up from the 3/4 level to the 5/6 level is the sheer amount of vocabulary necessary. You don't need to be in a classroom to memorize lists of words. Speaking/listening will come in time, and living in Korea you'll have plenty of opportunities to practice. I guess some feel that a classroom provides more motivation, but I don't think it's strictly necessary.

Daniel1981 wrote:
I would say consider the KIIP program also -
Our teacher said the KIIP levels match up roughly to the Yonsei levels.


I've done the KIIP program, never studied at Yonsei, but I wouldn't really classify the KIIP as high-level. There's nothing in those books that is significantly higher than the TOPIK 3 level, where the OP seems to already be. It is free though, so that's a big plus.

Dodge7 wrote:
Marry a Korean. Quicker and cheaper.


I'm not sure if you're being serious here, but... I suppose it may be quicker if you already have a person lined up that you would be willing to marry. But cheaper? The course is 100% free, even the books. How much does a wedding cost these days?

murr wrote:
Does anybody know if one can do just the Korean language element of the program, or does one have to do the whole package i.e. the cultural course too?


I don't see why not. The culture portion is the final level, so just stop showing up after the language section. No one's going to force you to come. But you won't get the certificate unless you complete the entire program, including the culture section.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
Daniel1981 wrote:
I would say consider the KIIP program also - socinet.go.kr

Their courses are free. I am taking it now as part of getting an f series visa and like it a lot. I'm in level 4. There are 4 levels of Korean, then a social integration culture / history course. Each level is 100 hours except the last culture course which is 50 hours.

Our teacher said the KIIP levels match up roughly to the Yonsei levels.

Marry a Korean. Quicker and cheaper.


Or you can marry a foreigner who has an F-2-7, just as quick and cheap!
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Charriere



Joined: 01 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The social integration course that has been mentioned might be free, but there is no guarantee that you will actually be able to attend a class. I took the test, and like Daniel, was placed in level 4. Unfortunately there were no courses available in my area. Most of them run during the day, Mon-Fri. I asked about taking a course in a different province, but I was told that this is not possible.
Of course, if you don't plan on working, this will not be a problem. Also, if you are registered in Seoul, you're chance of finding a suitable course will increase, too.
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bluethree



Joined: 20 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback guys. I think i'll probably just opt for a tutor or try to find a hagwon with specialized classes (like for the higher level TOPIK) instead of dropping the cash on a university program. I will probably just be relaxing here for a few months w/o working on a D10 or tourist visa.
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