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petezjunior
Joined: 22 Sep 2012
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 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: Korean-American Dual Citizen looking for Seoul Teaching Job |
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| I have read some threads about Korean-American dual citizens having a terrible time teaching in South Korea and read of a dual citizen gyopo like myself who interned at Hyundai and got drafted into the military. I studied at Yonsei last year for study abroad and received my dual citizenship then but also was excused from the military because I had brain/back surgery when I was younger. I was officially excused from the military due to my condition, and I have a letter from the military office. My question is, how difficult will it be for me to get hired from a legitimate company in Seoul? Any examples? Thanks a lot, I want to make the right decision before I apply. I graduated in May 2013 with a good GPA and 4-5 years of tutoring experience. I am also 21 btw. Thanks for your help. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Korean-American Dual Citizen looking for Seoul Teaching |
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| petezjunior wrote: |
| I have read some threads about Korean-American dual citizens having a terrible time teaching in South Korea and read of a dual citizen gyopo like myself who interned at Hyundai and got drafted into the military. I studied at Yonsei last year for study abroad and received my dual citizenship then but also was excused from the military because I had brain/back surgery when I was younger. I was officially excused from the military due to my condition, and I have a letter from the military office. My question is, how difficult will it be for me to get hired from a legitimate company in Seoul? Any examples? Thanks a lot, I want to make the right decision before I apply. I graduated in May 2013 with a good GPA and 4-5 years of tutoring experience. I am also 21 btw. Thanks for your help. |
You'll be hired as a Korean and Korean employers will treat you like any other Korean. If you graduated from one of the top 10 universities in America, you'll be treated well and advance in the society as an elite. However, having a brain/back surgery may hinder in your advancement, because Koreans view and treat any major defect (surgery) as a disability dispite full recovery. As for teaching, they'll expect you to speak both English and Korean fluently. If your Korean is subpar despite your Korean citizenship, expect to be treated like $#%$#. Also, most teaching jobs won't offer you the same benefits like the foreign teachers. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| You are so young. I wonder if any company would hire someone so young. Is it even possible to graduate university by your age. That means you started at 17? |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| You are so young. I wonder if any company would hire someone so young. Is it even possible to graduate university by your age. That means you started at 17? |
Yes, it's possible. I did. |
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staygold
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I'm a dual citizen as well. Bigger hagwons like Avalon and YBM will treat you like a regular Korean and will offer you lower salary, no housing, and so on. You can try Topia, but they prefer people who are already in Korea. As for public schools, SMOE doesn't hire dual citizens. GEPIK is your best bet.
Edit: If housing's not an issue, try the hagwons in Gangnam that specifically hire gyopos, like TLC EduCenter and Habit9.
There are smaller hagwons that are legitimate. Just make sure you get in touch with a good recruiter. |
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petezjunior
Joined: 22 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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robinsoncrusoe
Joined: 22 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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how were your SAT/AP scores? The big money for gyopos as far as teaching goes is in the SAT/AP teaching domain.
They rarely offer housing or airfare, but the salary is far higher than any english teaching job you can find.
PM me for details. If you have good credentials and can speak at least some basic Korean (most students you teach will be rich kids already studying in the US or at international school so they speak English well), there are a number of places I used to work at that I could recommend you to. |
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| staygold wrote: |
I'm a dual citizen as well. Bigger hagwons like Avalon and YBM will treat you like a regular Korean and will offer you lower salary, no housing, and so on. You can try Topia, but they prefer people who are already in Korea. As for public schools, SMOE doesn't hire dual citizens. GEPIK is your best bet.
Edit: If housing's not an issue, try the hagwons in Gangnam that specifically hire gyopos, like TLC EduCenter and Habit9.
There are smaller hagwons that are legitimate. Just make sure you get in touch with a good recruiter. |
Not entirely true. I worked at one of the bigger hagwons and in my time there we had two teachers who were Korean-American, spoke very little Korean and were treated just like every other foreign teacher there. They got the same pay and same housing. Now OUTSIDE the office yes they got lots of dirty looks etc when locals tried to talk to them only to discover their lack of Korean. |
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| If what is holding you back from applying is being worried about the chances of getting in... well you just need to apply. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| If you're excused from military service and you're worried about being a dual national, you can renounce your Korean citizenship. Then you're no longer a dual national. |
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petezjunior
Joined: 22 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| You are so young. I wonder if any company would hire someone so young. Is it even possible to graduate university by your age. That means you started at 17? |
Sorry, I mean that I graduate this upcoming May 2013. I am 21-years-old and thinking about becoming a business teacher in a nyc public school, and i believe that this will give me some good experience into teaching |
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petezjunior
Joined: 22 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| You are so young. I wonder if any company would hire someone so young. Is it even possible to graduate university by your age. That means you started at 17? |
Sorry, I mean that I graduate this upcoming May 2013. I am 21-years-old and thinking about becoming a business teacher in a nyc public school, and i believe that this will give me some good experience into teaching |
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staygold
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| staygold wrote: |
I'm a dual citizen as well. Bigger hagwons like Avalon and YBM will treat you like a regular Korean and will offer you lower salary, no housing, and so on. You can try Topia, but they prefer people who are already in Korea. As for public schools, SMOE doesn't hire dual citizens. GEPIK is your best bet.
Edit: If housing's not an issue, try the hagwons in Gangnam that specifically hire gyopos, like TLC EduCenter and Habit9.
There are smaller hagwons that are legitimate. Just make sure you get in touch with a good recruiter. |
Not entirely true. I worked at one of the bigger hagwons and in my time there we had two teachers who were Korean-American, spoke very little Korean and were treated just like every other foreign teacher there. They got the same pay and same housing. Now OUTSIDE the office yes they got lots of dirty looks etc when locals tried to talk to them only to discover their lack of Korean. |
Oops. When I meant "treat you like a regular Korean," I was talking about contracts. Were those teachers dual citizens or on F4 visas? I'm a dual citizen and had interviews with Avalon and YBM, but was told that I needed to have an F4 visa or they would give me a Korean contract. I e-mailed Chungdahm if they accepted dual citizens and they told me I'd get a Korean contract as well. A lot of hagwon owners have no idea that dual citizenship was legalized recently. It's really annoying.  |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I mean that I graduate this upcoming May 2013. I am 21-years-old and thinking about becoming a business teacher in a nyc public school, and i believe that this will give me some good experience into teaching |
Is this what you want? What was your major? Business or education? Do you want to be taken into corporate Korea or do you want to be a NYC school teacher? |
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petezjunior
Joined: 22 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| petezjunior wrote: |
Sorry, I mean that I graduate this upcoming May 2013. I am 21-years-old and thinking about becoming a business teacher in a nyc public school, and i believe that this will give me some good experience into teaching |
Is this what you want? What was your major? Business or education? Do you want to be taken into corporate Korea or do you want to be a NYC school teacher? |
My major is business admin. with a concentration in finance, but im thinking of teaching business/math related courses and take education classes. however, i am applying to some internships in seoul as well like the american chamber of commerce in korea. do you have any corporate internships that you know of? |
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