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Advice/Help on Transfering jobs mid contract?

 
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openning



Joined: 03 Jul 2012

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject: Advice/Help on Transfering jobs mid contract? Reply with quote

So, I'm looking for help -- not critiques on why I'm doing this, which is all that really happened last time I asked for help.

I'm here in Seoul, and loving it. I love the kids, love teaching, but the job itself is not ideal. I am well qualified (teaching degree from Canada, I've been teaching for over 10 years, and taught in Korea for a little over a year about 6 years ago). I've been at my job here this time for about 2 months.

I would like to get another job, but I would like some help on the process of doing that. I have friends who left their contracts early last time I was here, but they either pulled a runner, or lied to their boss to get out of their contract and released from their visa... I'm not keen on doing either of those things.

So, here are my questions. How do you go about applying and getting a job from Korea when you don't have any of your paperwork? I have my original degree with me, but I can't get a criminal record check from Canada because, well... I'm not there. I'm fairly certain my current employer has a copy, because he had me send him 2 different versions of my criminal record check, but I doubt he would give it to me freely after I have broken a contract with him.

Also, I don't think I would stay at any job I took for a full year. I am planning on going back to school soon, so I would likely end up breaking yet another contract at the end of this. Is it possible to get a contract that last 10 or 8 months? I have on occasion seen 6 month contracts, but they are usually at the university level, and I'm particularly interested in that.

And any advice on how best to break a contract would be helpful. I know I will need to talk to my supervisor and all that, but I have never done anything like this before and so it feels a bit out of my wheelhouse.

Thanks!
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newb



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how you'd transfer with only 2 months in and without documents. But I do know how you'd quit after somehow you made the transfer. Just quit and leave.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they either pulled a runner, or lied to their boss to get out of their contract and released from their visa... I'm not keen on doing either of those things.


And then you say

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How do you go about applying and getting a job from Korea when you don't have any of your paperwork?


If you are not going to pull a runner or lie to your boss, how do you plan on putting yourself in a situation where you would need to get your paperwork? I don't think you fully thought it out.

Unless, are you thinking of being honest and telling your boss the truth? If so, you wouldn't need new documents. They would give you a release letter. Next best thing is to pay them a penalty for leaving very early in a contract period. This is the more practical solution. You simply work a week or so without pay, they give a release letter, and you move on.

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Also, I don't think I would stay at any job I took for a full year.


Then, why don't you do this job for 2 more months, try to get transfer to a winter camp thing, and then go back home? Why screw two hagwons? I have a history of leaving schools after 6 months, but I do it under mutual agreement and help the school out.

Start with needing to leave. Keep stressing you need to leave. Eventually, they will say, "Ok, when we get a replacement you can leave." Don't say anything about working without pay yet. Wait a week, then stress again you need to leave. During the following week bring up the idea of leaving without pay. Now they are in a situation where they can save money. Either they will rush to get a replacement or they might suck up the loss of a teacher and let you go.

If that doesn't work, you need to get creative and find a way for them to want you to leave.
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openning



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay... So are you saying that if I get a release letter I don't need paperwork? This is why I'm asking because that is the sort of thing I don't know. I've only ever gotten a job here from overseas so all I know is how it works that way. What happens if I don't get a release letter? My boss doesn't sem particularly vindictive, but I don't know how he would react to someone breaking a contract... I don't know of anyone here having done that before.

And as far as getting a winter camp job... Those are what? 2 week? 4? I kinda need to have a job for the next year, not a few weeks.

You also mention leaving on good terms, helping your boss out... How did you work that?
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What happens if I don't get a release letter?


Then there is a very small chance immigration will give a D10 I think. It allows you to look for a new school, but if you are leaving after 2 months I am not sure how nice they will be. I stop there because I think the other option is more suitable in your case.

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You also mention leaving on good terms, helping your boss out... How did you work that?


Offering to work for a few weeks without pay usually helps. Initially, they might say no and that you will never be able to enter Korea again. However, after a while, emotions settle and they will work out a deal.

This is why I suggest you mention it as a "possibility" 2 weeks before getting paid. This way you still get most of your money. Then, pressure them after the second week that you "really need to go because you have a good offer" which in all truthfulness should be happening. You should get a job lined up to transfer to.

I usually get a job earlier and just give up more money. However, it's over the 6th month mark where the owner sees they would have to pay severance, airfare, and more pension if I continued to work. They figure it is a good deal if they can get a replacement and extend all that 6 more months.

With 2 months, you haven't given them much. So, if you can wait till winter, maybe immigration will give you a D10. You could say you want to find a winter camp job to them because you "might" have a E2 job in March. Even though this might not happen, it would get you the D10 and time to look for an E2 Wink

Maybe I am being to cautious here and getting a D10 might be easier with 4 months completed (but it's under the 6th month mark, your gamble). Also, I haven't heard of something getting a D10 yet who wants to find a winter/summer camp job. I don't see why it's not possible. Ask immigration and find out.
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