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FBI Check and Student Loan Default

 
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jkrishnamurtidotorg



Joined: 04 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: FBI Check and Student Loan Default Reply with quote

Hello forum community

The other day my sister asked about teaching in Korea. One thing that came up in our conversation could not be answered by my own personal experiences or of those whom I know. I also did a bit of research for her, but came up empty. I told her to come on this forum to ask about it, but she did not feel comfortable publicizing her situation.

My sister is currently in default on her student loans. She is interested in completing some kind of ESL certification course, and hopes to find a job teaching in Korea. But one issue which is stagnating her hopes to do this is that she is unsure if her FBI check will show that she is in default status. She has been in default for a little more then a half a year. Her loan debt is really not that large, and I told her in one year of teaching in Korea she could theoretically eliminate that burden.

So if anyone has personal experiences, or is aware of others' stories that is relevant, tried, and tested, I know she would really appreciate it.

Thanks community
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I checked, defaulting on student loan is not a criminal offense. However, it will make her life more difficult and the gov't will eventually get their $$ from her one way or the other.
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Keeper



Joined: 11 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry about the FBI check having it. But would the Feds process her passport, CBC, apostille or would they flag her as in default therefore no processing?
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeper wrote:
I wouldn't worry about the FBI check having it. But would the Feds process her passport, CBC, apostille or would they flag her as in default therefore no processing?


Our great government isn't as efficient as you think. You should try it and see if they catch it and let us know.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non issue for the FBI check or processing of a passport or getting an apostille.

It is simply a civil matter.

Get a job (in Korea, China, Japan, Taiwan or Thailand), pay it off and be happy.

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jkrishnamurtidotorg



Joined: 04 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:25 am    Post subject: thrilled Reply with quote

She was thrilled to hear about the responses. She feels like she may have a legitimate path to becoming debt free.

Thanks contributors.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I was in "default" too. I am not sure what that really means, but I needed 1 class to graduate. I studied Japanese for 3 years, went to China in 2002, and I took a course on Russia, but the school didn't think I fulfilled my ethnic diversity requirement.

This resulted in one more semester of one class and since that made me a part-time student they were expecting me to start paying for loans. I had no idea about this at the time and when I tried to get things sorted they told me I had to pay all or nothing.

If you are able to give monthly payments, then it should be no problem. I suggest getting money to pay it off. Perhaps you can use a credit card to extend the time, and then when you get paid in Korea make monthly payments to pay it off and the full loan amount.
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NilesQ



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts would be that any financial issues, unless they resulted in a fraud charge, would have no impact on one's criminal record.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NilesQ wrote:
My thoughts would be that any financial issues, unless they resulted in a fraud charge, would have no impact on one's criminal record.


I forgot to add, the impact for me was that they said if I didn't pay all then it would affect my credit rating. However, I am sure criminal charges would have been around the corner if I had continued to not pay.
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cincynate



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps you can use a credit card to extend the time, and then when you get paid in Korea make monthly payments to pay it off and the full loan amount.


Thats a terrible idea.. Never put anything on a credit card.. Especially since you have already defaulted, which means your credit score has taken a hit, and you will have sky high interest rates.

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I forgot to add, the impact for me was that they said if I didn't pay all then it would affect my credit rating. However, I am sure criminal charges would have been around the corner if I had continued to not pay.


Simply not paying a bill, regardless of what it is, will never earn you a criminal charge. There are no debtors prisions in the USA! Therefore, nothing will be on your FBI check. The only difference between a student loan and other forms of credit is that a student loan usually cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.

Another point is that you never loose your entitlement to any other federal or state services because you default on a student loan. Nothing to worry about.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thats a terrible idea.. Never put anything on a credit card.. Especially since you have already defaulted, which means your credit score has taken a hit, and you will have sky high interest rates.


Defaulting doesn't mean your credit score has taken a hit. Actually, it means it is "idle". Your credit rating could actually go up by charging your card and paying it off as scheduled. This shows activity and therefore you can borrow more money later on.

If you never put anything on credit card, why have one? A simple credit card starts at a few thousand dollars. Set up a monthly payment system. Say 100 dollars per month for example. You're telling me charging your card 100 dollars and using that money for one month while you earn 2,000 dollars is not a good idea? It shuts up the collectors, gives you time to earn money you can later pay back without worrying about going into default more.

Perhaps family can help out instead, but taking responsibility for your finances is the first step to being independent and taking responsibility for your life.

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There are no debtors prisions in the USA!


No, but your credit rating can be reflected. If you are into playing games, having others own your assets, then maybe you could get around this. However, it's best to use credit cards, even when you don't need to and raise your credit rating.

Specifically, when I went to Korea, Korean friends would use their credit card to purchase items I wanted and then have me pay them.

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Another point is that you never loose your entitlement to any other federal or state services


That leapfrogs over the main point that you might lose your entitlement to that very federal or state service you are worried about Laughing
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem for your sister is not the FBI check. If she is truly in default she cannot get official transcripts from her college/university. I would think this would put a crimp in getting a visa.
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recessiontime



Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock wrote:
The problem for your sister is not the FBI check. If she is truly in default she cannot get official transcripts from her college/university. I would think this would put a crimp in getting a visa.



what? The college tuition is paid off, they have no reason to withhold anything. Even the student loan company (sallie mae) gets their fill from the government.


OP, like the above posters mentioned student default is at the worst a civil offense. Should not be a problem getting a visa. The only issue is actually paying off the loan which in my eyes looks impractical on an ESL teacher's salary in Korea (considering how high her tuition probably is). Check your pm.
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