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Best & Worst Higher Ed Institutions to work for in Korea

 
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diddymao



Joined: 29 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:32 am    Post subject: Best & Worst Higher Ed Institutions to work for in Korea Reply with quote

What is the worst and what is the best?
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toadkillerdog



Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Location: Daejeon. ROK

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of what?
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The foreign language center at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies probably ranks as the worst. I worked there a couple years back and it was the worst employment experience I've had in Korea (or anywhere for that matter). Just a dreadful place to work. Check for yourself. Do a search on this (or any other) ESL site. You will find consistently negative feedback about the place from disgruntled teachers.
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yakey



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: I'll second that on HUFS Reply with quote

I had a friend who was teaching there and the worst student in his class who rarely showed up and constantly said he wasn't happy because he couldn't watch his Doosan Bears play baseball (that's apparently why he wasn't showing up) during class complained about him and guess who got canned - yes, the teacher.

In my opinion, HUFS doesn't care about foreign teachers at all.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toadkillerdog wrote:
In terms of what?


Spot on!

Details would be nice. Take any Uni and it will be considered horrible for another (too far away from city) to good (students are not the best but want to learn...). Where in the job search process are you. What are your prospects or leads you have.

Also your post translates into two things for me...

1. Please do my work for me. I am too lazy to do some research.
2. Can somebody give me some leads and hints to search.

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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a hint: If you're working for a hogwon now, pretty much any uni job will be better.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, although it would.be considered an average uni job, I am fortunate to be where I am. Good people work with me. Sure we do not have the top students in Seoul, but they are kind and many try hard, making progress.

The biggest perks of my job are the office, which I have to myself, and is as large as a small officetel. They provided a desk/furniture, and it has a sink. With the shower one floor below, I could almost live there. It makes office hours easier.

Another perk is pay. Average for starters but been here since 2005, and salary goes up yearly. Do the math. I have no plans to leave.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^And the name of the university is...? The OP, after all, was asking for the names of universities that are good / bad to work at. Simply saying you've a good job takes the thread nowhere.

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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Here's a hint: If you're working for a hogwon now, pretty much any uni job will be better.


Unfortunately, this is not necessarily the case. I have worked at hogwans, and I thought getting a 'uni' job was a big step up. In many cases it can be, but in the case of the institution I mentioned above, it was actually a step down. 'Unigwons' are everywhere in Korea now, and the conditions suck. After I left my university I went back to a hogwan. To be honest, I was happier teaching children there than at my university. There are a lot of crap uni jobs in Korea. I, unfortunately, worked at one such place - HUFS. I wouldn't recommend the place to my worst enemy. Others will have better experiences at other universities....But not all of them are good jobs.
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
...and it has a sink.


What's with you and The Sink? Laughing At every opportunity you mention it. It's no big deal...my office has one too.

The OP hopefully isn't looking for anecdotal evidence of the best/worst schools. People are not a reliable gauge of these things, particularly here. There are the usual top 5s, top 10s in Korea. Google will show you a few different rankings and no better or worse than any list that will be complied here.

http://www.4icu.org/kr/

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/asian-university-rankings/2011

http://koreanuniversitiesranking.blogspot.com/

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/asia.html

etc....
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eat_yeot



Joined: 11 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Google will show you a few different rankings and no better or worse than any list that will be complied here.


Academic rankings don't necessarily correlate very well with how good of an employer they are.
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Scorpion



Joined: 15 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I'll second that on HUFS Reply with quote

yakey wrote:
I had a friend who was teaching there and the worst student in his class who rarely showed up and constantly said he wasn't happy because he couldn't watch his Doosan Bears play baseball (that's apparently why he wasn't showing up) during class complained about him and guess who got canned - yes, the teacher.

In my opinion, HUFS doesn't care about foreign teachers at all.


Understatement of the year.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some kind soul made a thread about the ranking of the top universities to work for in Korea. It would be cool if someone made a list of the bottom ten or twenty universities / unigwons so people know which to avoid. It's hiring season and we can't be too careful.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=219453
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