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abright1dea



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: delete Reply with quote

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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

going overseas and living short term in a new place with a so/bf/gf is an awful awful idea. enjoy a new place without being tethered to someone or something.
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd have a better chance if you were married, but once your boyfriend gets a look at these thin beautiful Korean girls he may be staying out a little later each night he goes out "with the guys" if you know what I mean. Good luck with that.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am PMing you. I have experience in this but would rather not post it publicly because people harass when talking about personal situations.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is true some schools are wary about hiring couples, and it's policy to try not to. The problem is not just a couple falling out with each other, it's also one of them falling out with the school.

You can tell recruiters that you're a couple seeking placements, as long as they get their fee from the school they don't give two hoots what your relationship is, and leave it up to them to find you a couple position in one school or two separate positions near each other. Say if you'd prefer to have different apartments close by - couples who don't want two apartments are an extra headache for recruiters to consider, saying you just want to live in the same area is much easier to fill.

Also you should say if you don't mind being placed outside of a major city; as a couple you're much less likely to get lonely and more likely to get jobs at good schools if you're in a small town.

*This is just IMHO*
Yes there are less places for westerners to shop/eat/drink out in the boonies but it's cheaper, cleaner, the people are nicer, there's less traffic. You can buy lots of things online if you want western food to cook at home. Really anywhere is a few hours from a major city to go visit and play in at the weekends. E.g. Seoul is nice to visit but I wouldn't wanna live there.
/IMHO

I've known several other teacher couples and it's a little more complicated when sorting out EFL jobs for two, and it ain't all sweetness and light. Just like back at home, really.[/i]
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We came over together and taught in the boonies (public school, different schools) and lived in different apartments about a 100 metres away from each other. In a way it is good, as you have someone to vent to/discuss work situations/go our socialising with.
We now live together in our own place in Seoul. So it worked for us.

*edit* We said we were 'friends' but it was pretty obvious what was going on. No-one cared, but I got plenty of intrusive questions about my 'love friend.'

As an aside -- I wouldn't want to go back to the boonies to live. Ever.
But some (as above) really enjoy it. You can meet a good group of people, I found it rather depressing to be honest. Koreans are a little insular and not really 'out there' with their thinking and ideas, so I much prefer the diversty of people in Seoul.
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abright1dea



Joined: 06 Nov 2012

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
going overseas and living short term in a new place with a so/bf/gf is an awful awful idea. enjoy a new place without being tethered to someone or something.


I wasn't asking your advice on my life decisions. I was asking the best way to go about a decision I have already made.

To everyone whose reading comprehension is intact, thank you for answering my question.
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s.tickbeat



Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey OP~~~!

I came here with my lover in 2010, and we had a blast. You can totally find jobs in the same city, especially if it's more of a medium-sized city. Try Masan, Changwon, Jinju, etc. They're all small enough that even if you're on opposite ends of the city it's still just a busride away.

And, don't let the others get you down. Come out here, with your lover, and have the best time with it that you can. Whatever happens, happens. Having your s/o there as emotional support will really make the difference, for both of you.
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thebektionary



Joined: 11 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I already sent you a message, but I just wanted to say that don't think you can't get jobs in Seoul or Gyeonggi-do together. February is when all the jobs will open up and it will be quite easy to get jobs close to one another like I suggested in my PM. My ex and I did that. Like I said, we live 15-25 minutes away from each other depending on taxi, bus, or subway and we still live in Seoul (well, Bucheon-Seoul border and Gwangmyeong-Seoul border).

There are many public school jobs in Bucheon through Korvia and GMSC. If they don't cut the budget, you could probably both request that and be pretty successful.
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abright1dea



Joined: 06 Nov 2012

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thebektionary wrote:
I know I already sent you a message, but I just wanted to say that don't think you can't get jobs in Seoul or Gyeonggi-do together. February is when all the jobs will open up and it will be quite easy to get jobs close to one another like I suggested in my PM. My ex and I did that. Like I said, we live 15-25 minutes away from each other depending on taxi, bus, or subway and we still live in Seoul (well, Bucheon-Seoul border and Gwangmyeong-Seoul border).

There are many public school jobs in Bucheon through Korvia and GMSC. If they don't cut the budget, you could probably both request that and be pretty successful.


We are thinking of heading over between August and October. Is that an ok time to get decent jobs in a large city? I've just started researching the areas but so far I like Buscan or Seoul.
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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're better off going for the end of February or the end of September. I just went through a lot of headaches trying to get this girl a job for December. All recruiters were like "we barely have anything until February". It's possible, but probably not as likely ya'll would find something close to one another in Seoul. I don't know much about the situation in Busan because I've never lived there or looked for jobs there.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: teaching with a SO/BF/GF Reply with quote

abright1dea wrote:
My boyfriend and I are trying to teach in South Korea this upcoming fall and are wondering about living arrangements and the best strategies to stay together. I've read a lot of contradicting information. Some says that schools will not hire couples that are dating because they fear losing two teachers over a break up. Others say that schools will hire you but will tell the parents you are married if they complain about anything they deem inappropriate.

Ideally, my boyfriend and I would not want to live together, but would like to live close to each other. If push came to shove, we would live together. What is the best way to go about applying for jobs and housing? Any tips on how to best represent ourselves in the Korean culture? Thanks


1- You will get no universal rule answer on this. Some schools will hire couples, other schools shy away from doing so, it is really case by case (sorry if that does not help you).

2- If you guys prefer to each have your own apt, that can be done but you will likely have to work at different schools. The challenge will then be to find two schools close enough to each other that house their teachers in the same area OR for you guys to get "no-housing contracts" with a housing allowance and each find an apt near to each other.

3- If you wish to work in the same school BUT have your own apt, that can be done but it will be odd for you guys to apply to that school as a couple but demand individual apts....

4- Feb would be a good time to look for work in Korea. Note that Seoul and Busan are the most competitve job markets however.
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abright1dea



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching with a SO/BF/GF Reply with quote

[quote="PatrickGHBusan"]
abright1dea wrote:


4- Feb would be a good time to look for work in Korea. Note that Seoul and Busan are the most competitve job markets however.


We would be looking for hagwan jobs, are they still extremely competitive in those cities? We can't start until August at the earliest, is that a bad time to go? Thanks
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: teaching with a SO/BF/GF Reply with quote

[quote="abright1dea"]
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
abright1dea wrote:


4- Feb would be a good time to look for work in Korea. Note that Seoul and Busan are the most competitve job markets however.


We would be looking for hagwan jobs, are they still extremely competitive in those cities? We can't start until August at the earliest, is that a bad time to go? Thanks


August is not a bad time to look for Hakwon jobs. Just make sure you both have all you required documents in hand before you apply. Not having your docs ready will slow you down and get you fewer responses.

Hakwon positions will be competitive in those cities anyway. Seoul and Busan are the most sought after places for FTs. Note that other K-cities could be good for you guys too.

If you do choose Busan, feel free to pm me as I lived there for 11 years (1997-2008) and go there once (or more) per year since leaving. I know the city like it was my hometown in many ways!

Good luck to you guys.
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abright1dea



Joined: 06 Nov 2012

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching with a SO/BF/GF Reply with quote

[quote="PatrickGHBusan"]
abright1dea wrote:


August is not a bad time to look for Hakwon jobs. Just make sure you both have all you required documents in hand before you apply. Not having your docs ready will slow you down and get you fewer responses.

Hakwon positions will be competitive in those cities anyway. Seoul and Busan are the most sought after places for FTs. Note that other K-cities could be good for you guys too.

If you do choose Busan, feel free to pm me as I lived there for 11 years (1997-2008) and go there once (or more) per year since leaving. I know the city like it was my hometown in many ways!

Good luck to you guys.


I'll definitely do that if we pick Busan, thanks so much!
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