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norellleung
Joined: 21 Apr 2014
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 Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:26 pm Post subject: Question about Bringing my Dogs to Korea to Teach |
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Hello Community,
My move to South Korea from the U.S. will be permanent, for the rest of my life, so it is a non-negotiable priority for me to move with both of my dogs. I will fly out with one first and return for the other on a visit to the family within a year.
I realize that my options are much slimmer due to this. I realize life in Korea with dogs is way different and it's not as dog friendly as the U.S. and I embrace that.
My questions are:
Will any recruiting agency work with me? I realize many have no pet policies because they take everyone on an orientation where housing doesn't allow pets. If so, which ones?
Does EPIK itself have a no pet policy or is it just the agencies?
My dogs are highly trained to work in professional settings. They are certified therapy dogs, and certified canine good citizens in the U.S. They are trained to work in hospitals and have access to places pet dogs would not. I realize these certifications are American. Would these certifications mean anything in South Korea or offer us any access privileges?
ANY advice on how to teach English in Korea with dogs is deeply appreciated.
Thank you,
Norell |
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grnmle
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| The job market is super tight, but if you can find someone to hire your dogs... You're laughing. Wish I thought of that. |
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ChrisPK
Joined: 07 Aug 2014
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea is a very stressful place to live in not only for people but also for their pets, especially dogs that need their own space. It's very crowded, polluted, noisy, etc. So do your dogs a favor by leaving them behind in the US. |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Question about Bringing my Dogs to Korea to Teach |
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| norellleung wrote: |
Hello Community,
My move to South Korea from the U.S. will be permanent, for the rest of my life, so it is a non-negotiable priority for me to move with both of my dogs. I will fly out with one first and return for the other on a visit to the family within a year.
I realize that my options are much slimmer due to this. I realize life in Korea with dogs is way different and it's not as dog friendly as the U.S. and I embrace that.
My questions are:
Will any recruiting agency work with me? I realize many have no pet policies because they take everyone on an orientation where housing doesn't allow pets. If so, which ones?
Does EPIK itself have a no pet policy or is it just the agencies?
My dogs are highly trained to work in professional settings. They are certified therapy dogs, and certified canine good citizens in the U.S. They are trained to work in hospitals and have access to places pet dogs would not. I realize these certifications are American. Would these certifications mean anything in South Korea or offer us any access privileges?
ANY advice on how to teach English in Korea with dogs is deeply appreciated.
Thank you,
Norell |
Do your dogs need to accompany you to work? Or just to Korea?
If the latter, and if you qualify for the E2 visa, I'd focus on getting an offer from a hagwon. I don't know if it's EPIK policy not to allow pets, or recruiter policy, but I've never known a public school recruiter to accept an applicant knowing they are traveling with a pet. I'd say a public school job is unlikely if they know you are bringing a dog. A hagwon might be more likely to acquiesce after they've already offered you the position. Or just show up with the dog and see if anyone notices. Make sure you have all your vaccinations/microchips/quarantines etc. in order before you depart.
Best of luck! |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Question about Bringing my Dogs to Korea to Teach |
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| norellleung wrote: |
Hello Community,
My move to South Korea from the U.S. will be permanent, for the rest of my life, so it is a non-negotiable priority for me to move with both of my dogs. I will fly out with one first and return for the other on a visit to the family within a year. |
How do you know it will be permanent? If you're not a citizen of South Korea nor an immediate family member of a citizen of that country, your visa options are not such that you can automatically stay there long-term, most likely.
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| I realize that my options are much slimmer due to this. I realize life in Korea with dogs is way different and it's not as dog friendly as the U.S. and I embrace that. |
South Korea is not very dog friendly unless you count those "accessories" (those little dogs that fit into a lady's purse). There are places which will rent an apartment to you if you have a pet, but they might balk at the size of the animal if it's not one of the aforementioned trendy critters.
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My questions are:
Will any recruiting agency work with me? I realize many have no pet policies because they take everyone on an orientation where housing doesn't allow pets. If so, which ones? |
Realizing that having a pet will make it more difficult to place you, agencies will generally just tell you that you're not an attractive hire if you insist on bringing pets to Korea or obtaining pets after arrival.
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| Does EPIK itself have a no pet policy or is it just the agencies? |
Last I heard, EPIK had the specific no pet policy. See above for the others.
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| My dogs are highly trained to work in professional settings. They are certified therapy dogs, and certified canine good citizens in the U.S. They are trained to work in hospitals and have access to places pet dogs would not. I realize these certifications are American. Would these certifications mean anything in South Korea or offer us any access privileges? |
They mean nothing in Korea. You'd have to get the animals certified in Korea. That would entail a licensed training facility and a licensed trainer, meaning, of course, licensed in Korea.
Now a question for you: Are these dogs therapy dogs for you? If so, you're quite likely not gong to have to worry about the issue at all as you probably won't get hired anyway owing to a medical condition.
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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You could probably just teach your dog in your home town. Why bring it to Korea to teach?
Sorry, couldn't resist...carry on...  |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| I think most Koreans would rather make your dogs their dinner rather than make them their teacher . |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
| I think most Koreans would rather make your dogs their dinner rather than make them their teacher . |
+1, Any stray dog doesn't have long to live.
Your usual housing will be an apartment (10+ levels) or villas (3 -5 stories). Any medium sized or bigger dogs will make loud enough noise for tennants below you to make complaints. (dog's claws make irritating noises) You can carpet the place and will need a secondary door to prevent your dogs from scaring visitors. (many Koreans are very scared of dogs)
Ideal would be to rent a house. I hear rental prices are dropping due to housing glut. There are many people who can't sell due to overpricing.
Korea is not a dog friendly place (except for Jindo dogs). |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
| I think most Koreans would rather make your dogs their dinner rather than make them their teacher . |
+1, Any stray dog doesn't have long to live.
Your usual housing will be an apartment (10+ levels) or villas (3 -5 stories). Any medium sized or bigger dogs will make loud enough noise for tennants below you to make complaints. (dog's claws make irritating noises) You can carpet the place and will need a secondary door to prevent your dogs from scaring visitors. (many Koreans are very scared of dogs)
Ideal would be to rent a house. I hear rental prices are dropping due to housing glut. |
Yep, 16 months in a row now.
http://i.imgur.com/CgIVgs4.png |
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faeriehazel
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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The only kind of working dogs recognized by Koreans are guide dogs for the blind. These dogs are always wearing a special kind of harness that clearly states they are guide dogs (in Korean) and they are the only dogs allowed in places where dogs are generally not allowed. And even those dogs get turned away sometimes. It's totally illegal, but it happens. Most Koreans would laugh at the idea of a therapy dog.
The easiest way to have pets here is to have housing that is not tied to your job. Most housing provided by schools is cramped and really not ideal for keeping anything bigger than a hamster, or at most one small dog or cat. If your dogs are small and/or sedentary it might work, but if you have big, active dogs, Korea is going to be difficult for them. You'd have to look for housing near a river or stream (like the Han in Seoul) or a big public park (like the Olympic Park in Jamsil).
I suggest joining the group Animal Rescue Network Korea on Facebook. Good place to get info on keeping pets in Korea. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Korea is not a dog friendly place (except for Jindo dogs). |
Even Jindos find their way into the stew pot. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| The job market is super tight, but if you can find someone to hire your dogs... You're laughing. Wish I thought of that. |
You win! |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
You could probably just teach your dog in your home town. Why bring it to Korea to teach?
Sorry, couldn't resist...carry on... |
I think that she meant that the DOGS will be teaching. Although the last line of her post ("ANY advice on how to teach English in Korea with dogs is deeply appreciated.") suggests that maybe she will be co-teaching the classes along with the dogs.
I think that as long as you get Fido's CBC and his degree apostilled then you should be good to go (assuming that he went to university in one of the 7 English speaking countries). |
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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| You're thinking about taking your dog to Korea to teach? Does it have a B.A. from an English speaking university? |
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